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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: TooManyReels on January 12, 2014, 03:02:48 PM
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Where is the best place to purchase replacement PF35 oil filter (the tall blue ones) for the first gen. Camaro's. Or, is this not the correct replacement filter for my 69 Z/28.
TMR
Eddie
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Read THIS (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=5882.0) for which filter you need, and then read THIS (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7474.0) if your car was assembled after the January/February, 1969 time frame.
Ed
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In general, the PF25 was considered a passenger car filter, the PF35 was a truck filter. Rick's Camaros sells both, but they're expensive. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the help. Yep, a little pricey. For some reason I was thinking they would have been the taller filter and not the short one...But I guess not..
TMR
Eddie
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a lot of us have used the PF35 for the additional oil it allows the engine to hold, whether it filters better or not...
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I guess if you're going to show the car you might want those filters, but how good are they? I think I remember a discussion some years ago on TC that cut some filters apart and showed their innards. I decided to use a Napa Gold and they have the extra tall version that holds a little more too.
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I use Moroso. Baldwin is suppose to make a good HD filter as does Wix. Rumors spread around the track about issues with Fram collapsing and restricting oil flow--same summer a guy lost an engine at Thompson, and blamed the filter. I'm thinking 2008. True or not, don't know, I do know the price of a costly filter ( and Lucas oil ! ) is well under the price of a shot race engine ( or numbers correct ,virgin bore 302) All about period correct, but unless I plan on rolling it on and off the trailer ,sort of refuse to sacrifice the gains that have been made in reliability eg; gaskets-fasteners. ARP ;D Love them blue boxes. And Percy's make a locking header bolt that reallyworks. I guess it still boils down to the use of the car.
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I guess if you're going to show the car you might want those filters, but how good are they? I think I remember a discussion some years ago on TC that cut some filters apart and showed their innards. I decided to use a Napa Gold and they have the extra tall version that holds a little more too.
NAPA gold is a Wix filter and one of the best according to the drag racing people. I use them on the street cars and re-paint to look more original.
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Thanks Chick. Never thought about repainting the filter..Oh and by the way - very, very beautiful looking 69 with the Cross-ram..Puts my car to shame...
TMR
Eddie
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Thanks Chick. Never thought about repainting the filter..Oh and by the way - very, very beautiful looking 69 with the Cross-ram..Puts my car to shame...
TMR
Eddie
Come on Eddie, your too kind! Your 69 is killer! Send me your address and I have a surprise for you for the filter.........
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Just some pics of PF29's and old PF25 in a 1970 dated box.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/100_8181_zpsa130529b.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/100_8181_zpsa130529b.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/69z28/100_8572_zps8d731500.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/69z28/100_8572_zps8d731500.jpg.html)
Note the original PF-29 on our 68 Z/28 MO motor.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/100_8838_zpsc34dc3cb.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/100_8838_zpsc34dc3cb.jpg.html)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/100_8310_zps55931390.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/100_8310_zps55931390.jpg.html)
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Notice how much thicker the casing is ?
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Ok, so lets see a pic of one you have redone? You have piqued my interest :)
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Ok, so lets see a pic of one you have redone? You have piqued my interest :)
You already saw it! The one on the engine and the white/black filter sitting beside the red, white and blue one. :)
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Beautiful work ,you are quite the artist. Forgot Napa put their name on Wix ,what I use on my daily drivers. Even my Zero turn. And you are correct, Wix is a very popular brand around here at the strip via the local engine builders--why I mentioned it. As far as Napa ,my Dad was just telling me he always ran their HD cap/rotor and points with no issues in the Z , and recommend it seeing as I'm going back to the OE distributer. Probably still listed.
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Chick, that black logo AC filter is a re-painted WIX? :o
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The repaint looks great. Did you make the paint stencil or is it available for somewhere for purchase?
Thanks
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Chick, that black logo AC filter is a re-painted WIX? :o
No, it's an original PF-29 that I repainted to be like they came from the factory so what you see there is the real deal, just made to look the part from the factory.
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The repaint looks great. Did you make the paint stencil or is it available for somewhere for purchase?
Thanks
Good friend made me the stencil.
To all, there is no picture of a Wix painted but yes I have done a couple for my personal cars. But again, what I showed is original. I have also purchased original later version PF-25's (blue) to have available for our cars only.
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Chick, that black logo AC filter is a re-painted WIX? :o
Here is the Wix equivalent of a PF-25 repainted. Will go on our Nova we plan to drive. Also note something else, that being the later 70's original PF-25's seem to have the top lip not painted as this example yet early one's and PF-29's seem to have paint on that lip. Just a side note.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/100_8890_zps918ce3b3.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/100_8890_zps918ce3b3.jpg.html)
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Beautiful work ,you are quite the artist. Forgot Napa put their name on Wix ,what I use on my daily drivers. Even my Zero turn. And you are correct, Wix is a very popular brand around here at the strip via the local engine builders--why I mentioned it. As far as Napa ,my Dad was just telling me he always ran their HD cap/rotor and points with no issues in the Z , and recommend it seeing as I'm going back to the OE distributer. Probably still listed.
Jano that might have been the case as recent as 6 or 7 years ago. I remember being able to get brand new (not remanufactured) delco starters, and alternators from napa. They had the nicest parts by far. You paid a bit more, but you didn't have to numerous trips back to the store to return junk parts. Unfortunately Napa is just as bad as Auto Zone, and O'Riely (shucks kragen, checkers), if not worse. they are more pricey but now you are getting all the made in china stuff, so the quality has gone off a cliff. It seems like it happened right about the time they started sponsering Toyota in nascar and major motor events, go figure....
All I am saying is do your homework, they may list the part number but I would almost bet the part is of much lessor quality than what your dad was getting from them.
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Chick, that black logo AC filter is a re-painted WIX? :o
Here is the Wix equivalent of a PF-25 repainted. Will go on our Nova we plan to drive. Also note something else, that being the later 70's original PF-25's seem to have the top lip not painted as this example yet early one's and PF-29's seem to have paint on that lip. Just a side note.
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/100_8890_zps918ce3b3.jpg) (http://s192.photobucket.com/user/1-2-b-67L89/media/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Engine%20Related/100_8890_zps918ce3b3.jpg.html)
Chick very nice art work on the filters. You sound like you really did your homework on that one ;)
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if you want better filtration use a PF-35L which has a synthetic media that has finer pores.
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What isn't made in ROC ? Points installed at CHP, should be alright. But thanks ,I'll keep it mind :) Back to the filters: Napa Gold Wix?
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Chick very nice art work on the filters. You sound like you really did your homework on that one ;)
Heck!, Chick's middle name is Homework!
I truly believe when his 68 Z28 is completed, he may be able duplicate the 68 Camaro AIM, only with date breaks, physical part/fastener variation and high res color photos. ;D
Nice stencil job. I wouldn't mind having some of those for my street cars. I think Delco still sells the old red & blue logo AC PF25 or 35 for a premium.
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Eddie sent me this info today and I had not seen before but something some may be interested in?????? PF-25 decal
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141072374893?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649