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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: navigator on September 02, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
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All of the research I've come across indicates that the Astro Ventilation markings on the passenger and drivers side windows was discontinued part way through 1968. However, I recently looked at a 69 RS SS Convertible I'm considering buying that has the "Astro Ventilation" markings on the driver and passenger side windows. The car has 86000 original miles on it and has been parked by the current owner since 1983. She bought the car in 1972. I grew up in the same town and remember the car well. Everything about the car appears to be completely original and I have no doubt the current owner is telling me the truth when she says she has never had the windows replaced which might have explained why "Astro Ventilation" appears on the windows. The car, built in September of 1968 was sold through a dealer in Canada. Any help in figuring out this mystery would be appreciated. Even the codes don't make sense to me. It's possible, the original owner might have had the windows replaced for some reason but that seems unlikely. The original owner bought the car new in the same town where the current owner lives. It's a smalll town and no one I've spoken to remembers anything ever happening to that car before the current owner bought it. If anyone could help with these codes I'd certainly appreciate it. The drivers side window is a Soft-Ray Solid Tempered Window with: AS 2 , UX and M55 stamped on it. The passenger side is also a Soft-Ray with AS 2, NX and M74 stamped on it. Any assistance in figuring out this mystery would be greatly appreciated. I have photos of the windows if that would help.
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It's pretty unusual to have March and July, 1968 door glass in the same car; when was the car built?
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GM Vintage Car Services in Oshawa Ontario (George Zapora) - can assist you with exactly the date of production, shipping, and all other details such as delivered options, through his database of Canadian imported and sold cars.
All you need to get the entire documentation package from them is your Visa # (I believe it is near or slightly over $100 now) and the VIN # and he or one of the staff there can help you out - sometimes immediately over the phone as he did when I inquired about my car, prior to buying it years back..
I don't presently have the 1-800 number for the department - but it should be available via a Google search or maybe someone else will post it on here for you if you have an interest..
Randy
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Sorry, I listed the incorrect date codes. The driver's side window should have been CZ which I believe is Nov. 67. The passenger side is NX or Jan 68 while the left rear windows are both UX.
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Thanks Dutch, I have the documentation package from Vintage Car Services. Unless I'm missing something, however, it doesn't get into enough detail that would explain the glass used in production.
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John Z; the car was built in Sept. 68.
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The UX codes (July 68) on the quarter glass seem in line for a car built in September of 1968.
The door glass does not seem to be original to me.
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For what its worth, see attached photo of window markings.
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Correct me if I am wrong but wasnt the Astro glass just for a few months in 68 and then done? I have never heard of a 69 having the glass. Not saying it isnt possible. Heck I have only seen a hand full of 68's with it.. Two of them were previously owned..
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Correct me if I am wrong but wasnt the Astro glass just for a few months in 68 and then done? I have never heard of a 69 having the glass. Not saying it isnt possible. Heck I have only seen a hand full of 68's with it.. Two of them were previously owned..
According to Ed's research ended after November of 67. Thought he would have chimed in by now.
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The UX codes (July 68) on the quarter glass seem in line for a car built in September of 1968.
The door glass does not seem to be original to me.
Concur. The door glass appears to have been changed.
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The windows could have been broken at the dealers lot and replaced with glass from the warehouse. Bought a Vette like that once.
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I suppose its possible that both windows were replaced at some point within the first couple of years of its existence. It seems unlikely, however, but I guess anything is possible. What are the chances that the factory had left over windows from 68? After-all, the car was built in Sept of 68?
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Doubtful. They used up the Astros in the end of 68, IIRC.
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I have been told many times and again this weekend that my car 05C, (and all 68's) should have Astros. I'll guess they were changed for that reason.
There are lots of camEro experts at any car show. However there was 124378L300103, Palimino white with a black bench seat, Black V top, with legit Astro windows.
VT
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Mine doesn't....1968 07C Z28 and I've owned it since 1972 and PO says nothing changed on vehicle when he had it.
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However there was 124378L300103, Palimino white with a black bench seat, Black V top, with legit Astro windows.
VT
You wouldn't happen to have a pic of the trim tag would you? Real early car.
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Kurt,
Sorry, I neither had my phone or glasses with me. 08B build, but I could not make out the body number.
standard interior (with-E after the code), 327, PG.
VT
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However there was 124378L300103, Palomino white with a black bench seat, Black V top, with legit Astro windows.
VT
That would have been correct. The Astro Ventilation windows were early in the 1968 model year.
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Could be someone just liked them and snagged a pair from the bone yard. I got many upgrades for myself and friends from the local yards.
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Kurt,
Sorry, I neither had my phone or glasses with me. 08B build, but I could not make out the body number.
standard interior (with-E after the code), 327, PG.
VT
If you see the car again, I'd really appreciate a pic of the tag. Only seen a couple of real early cars with the E after the interior code.
Thanks!
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Kurt,
Is there any very early LA 68's with the 67 style TT in the data base ?
VT
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Nope, they have 68 tags, just 67 interior codes. It was almost a rumor until you confirmed it with this car....
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Hmm interesting, I'm pretty sure it also had the option codes on the trim tag.
Victor
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That would be different...
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For what it's worth, these are the date codes of my 1968 04A Norwood-built Sport Coupe. It is a survivor, I'm the second owner and have owned it since 1988:
Windshield CZ Nov 67, Back glass LX Mar 68, Driver's door XX Feb 68, Drivers quarter LX Mar 68, Passenger door LX Mar 68, Passenger quarter LX Mar 68. None of the four side windows are marked with Astro Ventilation.