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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: DT on August 25, 2013, 02:33:49 PM

Title: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 25, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
Anyone have a good paint that closely matches the "correct" color of the hood hinges on a 69 ??  I'm not sure I want them plated in Phosphate and have to worry about rust.  Most of the hinges I have seen, look dark grey, not really the phosphate color???  ???
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: JohnZ on August 25, 2013, 03:58:02 PM
These are my original hood hinges (02D '69 Norwood car) that have never been touched except to wipe them down once. The flash makes them look lighter than they really are.
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 25, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
Wow John, they look brand new!!!  So if I have them plated I shouldn't worry about rust???
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: Charley on August 26, 2013, 12:59:57 AM
Plate them yourself with Palmettos stuff and coat with Wd 40
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: cook_dw on August 26, 2013, 01:56:32 AM
You can also try this.


http://home.comcast.net/~rt66tbird/website/phosphate_etching.html
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: 69Z28-RS on August 26, 2013, 03:24:59 AM
Thank you Cook...  :)     

There is some really good information at that link on zinc plating, and clinch riveter, as well as the phosphating article.  These work for Chevroelts as well thunderbirds.  :)
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: cook_dw on August 26, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Anytime.   ;D

I emailed the author about the sodium dichromate solution process.  If he replies I will post up that process.
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 27, 2013, 12:07:17 AM
Great stuff guys, Thanks!!!
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: cook_dw on August 28, 2013, 08:31:41 PM
I havent heard from the author yet but I did find him on a T-bird website.  Here is what he is talking about on the process of sodium Dichromate..


 Sodium Dichromate (http://www.vintagethunderbirdclub.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7379&sid=518629e469f16a902570a6d7dc0f0c89)
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 28, 2013, 09:39:37 PM
Which Palmettos is the "correct" finish ???   Manganese or the Zinc??  Manganese solution appears to be charcoal black and the Zinc solution is a medium grey. 
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: Charley on August 28, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
I don't remember which one I have used but you can vary the darkness by how long you leave it in the solution. Cheap fun. Buy both a play with it. I also plate a bunch of bolts. Stainless steel salad bowls work great. Do it outside on the bar-b-q so you don't get in trouble in the house. Pour in water, solution, make bolt soup. Pretty easy.
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 28, 2013, 11:56:44 PM
Thx Charley
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: 68camaroz28 on August 29, 2013, 01:19:14 AM
Do some Palmetto searches and you will find a ton on info! Just phosphate some odds and ends yesterday including a-arm shims (glass beaded the zinc off)! You learn things when you utilize the process like scrubbing the parts with a soft brush and WD-40 to make sure the salts are removed or you will have white spots. I also just tried mystery oil instead of WD-40 and it worked better.
As Charlie mentioned (I agree 100%) buy both and have fun. I just use a cheap hot plate that does not take the solution past 200 degrees F. and stole some old stainless steel pans from the wife's stockpile. :)
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: montgomg on August 29, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
I used the medium gray phosphate coating from Palmetto on my 69 Camaro hinges. The color looks just right. You can make the color darker (but not charcoal gray) by leaving the part in the solution longer. I use either WD40 or Rem oil on the treated parts.
After a year no rust on the hinges.
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 29, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: Charley on August 30, 2013, 12:06:39 AM
It would be great if you tried it and posted pics.
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: DT on August 31, 2013, 08:57:34 PM
I have to find a cheap Large SS pot to put hinges in, LOL
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: Rich69s on March 25, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
I used a nesco type roaster for my hood hinges with thee gallons of water and 12 oz. of the dark gray phosphate . It worked great on both set of hinges. Make sure you degrease the pivot point really well before you blast them, then right into the solution.  Let it cook about 8 minuets after it stops bubbling then right to WD 40 rinse and dry three times. The next day I treated them with Barricade
  Use a thermometer, It takes awhile for the cooker to reach 190 degrees.
Title: Re: restoring 69 hood hinges
Post by: KevinW on March 25, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
I used stainless steel paint as a primer, then a very dusty thin coat of cast blast to tone it down, then a very fine misting of satin black to further darken it.  May not be correct, but it looks good and should last. other than the primer coat, the others are sprayed far away so the paint gets a rough texture and is not smooth.  I did this to the hood latch too. Sorry, I do not have a pic loaded online showing this.