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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: GS STAGE 1 on August 30, 2006, 01:01:40 AM

Title: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 30, 2006, 01:01:40 AM
Is there any chance my 327 2 bbl car came with multi leafs from the factory?
I read under suspension.......that all 12 bolts and 350 cars had them, but are there any cases where a 327 cars came so equipped?
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 30, 2006, 01:02:41 AM
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Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: KurtS on August 30, 2006, 02:06:14 AM
About zero. Every 327 I've seen has monoleafs.
What is in the first box on line 4 of your car's BBC? I can't read it, but if you can, that should confirm it.
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 30, 2006, 02:39:10 AM
Kurt, it appears to be an "I" or a "T"
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 30, 2006, 02:58:06 AM
Couple more questions........

1) I just bought a 69 rear-(sept date) that was advertised as a multi leaf. When put side by side with a 76 multi rear, the spring pads are 1/4 inch smaller than the 76 rear, is this common with the later rears?
2) Is there any advantage of running the multi leafs, especially on a non performance car?

Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 30, 2006, 03:01:54 AM
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Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: hotrod68 on August 31, 2006, 03:04:49 AM
Dunno about '69s, but according to my GM books, any '68 Camaro 327 over the base 4bbl engine (327/250hp) should have had multi-leafs, and that also meant it had a 12-bolt, but they were rare as hen's teeth. No 2-barrel 327s seem to have had multi-leafs. I've seen a 327/275hp 4-speed '68 with a 12-bolt and multi-leafs, but only 1. Every 2bbl car I've ever seen had mono-leafs, '68 or '69. I guess it's possible, though.
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: RamAirDave on August 31, 2006, 04:01:15 AM
Those spring clamps dont look like the factory ones.  The originals I've seen have always had a type of rivet head holding them.  Leads me to believe they arent the originals.

Unless this type was available also?

dave
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: rich69rs on August 31, 2006, 05:26:27 AM
I would concur with Kurt that your 327/210 hp; 2Bbl small bore Rochester carb almost certainly had monoleaf springs from the factory; as is the case with my '69 RS with the same engine and carb.  (Also true for base 307's in later '69 production.)

The monoleaf spring rides very well - don't believe you'll be disappointed if you go that route.
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 31, 2006, 11:36:53 PM
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Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on August 31, 2006, 11:58:21 PM
Is there any place on this site that breaks down the body broadcast copy??
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: KurtS on September 04, 2006, 05:27:04 AM
Kurt, it appears to be an "I" or a "T"
Yup, probably a T...... and then another letter. :) Probably TN or TM. Might be tough to tell those apart.....
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: Greg69gg327 on September 15, 2006, 06:40:15 PM
I have one of the early model California made 69s 327/210 hp; 2Bbl small bore Rochester carb. 77900 original miles. It has mono leafs.  Don't know if this helps much but a sample of one.

cheers,  Greg
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: chevysscamaro68 on September 18, 2006, 02:21:36 AM
I own a 1968 , I have a 10 bolt rear end w/ multi leaf springs.  I do not know if the rear end is original to the car or not.
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: JohnZ on September 18, 2006, 03:43:38 PM
Is there any chance my 327 2 bbl car came with multi leafs from the factory?

The multi-leaf springs in the photo are aftermarket replacements; factory multi-leaf springs looked like this:
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: rich69rs on September 18, 2006, 06:17:00 PM
John -

I am assuming that the pciture you posted is from your original, unmolested Z-28.

If that is the case, I couldn't help but notice that in the picture, the axle housing lis natural (grey).  Seems like in previous posts, when this had been discussed, the consensus was that the differential and rear end assembly was painted a semi gloss black.  Am I remembering correctly?  I much prefer the natural phosphate grey look to the semi gloss black painted rear ends.

Can you offer any clarification?

Thanks

Richard
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on September 18, 2006, 11:00:40 PM
The grey does look better.
Im curious, if this car is unmolested, did some cars not get the speckle paint sprayed underneath? I sure would like to know before it gets to that point in restoration. Appreciate any input

Thanks
Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: GS STAGE 1 on September 18, 2006, 11:25:08 PM
Disregard my previous post. I took a hose and sprayed the underneath, and it looks like its a solid color. It was an optical illusion of dirt.
John, can you confirm the correct color?. I also noticed the brake cable supports underneath your springs, I sure do like those, obviously mine were discarded when they swapped axles, but were these given to all early camaro's?
Thanks

Title: Re: 69 camaro multi leafs or mono
Post by: JohnZ on September 19, 2006, 05:34:25 PM
John -

I am assuming that the pciture you posted is from your original, unmolested Z-28.

If that is the case, I couldn't help but notice that in the picture, the axle housing lis natural (grey).  Seems like in previous posts, when this had been discussed, the consensus was that the differential and rear end assembly was painted a semi gloss black.  Am I remembering correctly?  I much prefer the natural phosphate grey look to the semi gloss black painted rear ends.

Can you offer any clarification?

Thanks

Richard

That's not my car in the photo - don't recall where I grabbed it, but the configuration of the spring leaves is correct. My rear axle was originally painted "chassis black", but virtually all of it is gone now - it was cheap black paint, and didn't last long.

All 69's had the stamped parking brake cable supports (see the Assembly Manual, UPC 5 , Sheet C2).