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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: daves87gn on May 21, 2013, 08:55:09 AM

Title: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 21, 2013, 08:55:09 AM
looking to buy motor, wanted to confirm its not a restamp

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Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: ZLP955 on May 21, 2013, 10:12:30 AM
Is that a 3956618 block casting? Looks good to me, but the experts know their stuff and will no doubt comment.
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 21, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
I can see the broach marks on the block; the stamp is correct.  I do not believe it's a restamp... but one needs to see the block casting no and date to be certain it's not an 'additive' stamp.
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 21, 2013, 06:01:01 PM
here are a few pics, motor was included with purchase of race car that required a 302, motor was blue until sell decided to sell and painted it orange (dont want to confuse anyone) also notice no vin stamp



Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 21, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
casting date is a little hard to read, but think is c 6 9, original is easier to read when zoomed



Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 21, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
also included is what i believe is a 140 cam from my research on here and on team camaro
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 21, 2013, 08:30:07 PM
There's no VIN stamp on the machined top of the block?   but by that date *(March 11)... might there be one on the cast surface above the oil filter?   THOSE are extremely difficult to see presence of, much less to read...
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 21, 2013, 09:08:13 PM
There's no VIN stamp on the machined top of the block?   but by that date *(March 11)... might there be one on the cast surface above the oil filter?   THOSE are extremely difficult to see presence of, much less to read...

on the front pad the pic i have i can see about 80 of pad, i dont think theres enough room left on what visible for a vin, in the middle pic of reply #3 is the cast surface above oil filter, the original picture is much better than the resized one posted here but even when zoomed in as much as possible there seems to be zero evidence of any mark/stamp
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: bcmiller on May 22, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
Carefully clean the area by the oil filter with some paint remover or lacquer thinner.  Do not use anything abrasive.  Then take some more pics at different angles.  I think I see a hint of some numbers. 
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 22, 2013, 02:39:38 PM
and get some very bright light on it..  again .. from different angles... :)
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: KurtS on May 22, 2013, 02:43:28 PM
I think the pad stamp is real.
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 23, 2013, 01:56:29 AM
will work on getting more pics of vin, but think i will move forward with purchase, thanks guys
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: 69Z28 on May 23, 2013, 02:22:38 AM
Dave, good for you man. Hope it is A OK. I was wondering how to get mine to you in California if you bought it, but now I don't have to worry about it. I still need somebody to buy mine though.



will work on getting more pics of vin, but think i will move forward with purchase, thanks guys
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 23, 2013, 02:41:06 AM
Hey Gary,

just been looking for something closer to my build date, seller asked me to make him an offer, i did, not sure if he will accept, so your not off the hook yet, lol sorry for dragging this on.

i also found another motor built two weeks before my car.

right now waiting on the above motor, it might have some interesting history, i'll share after purchase or i pass.

was told uship is very reasonable and easy.

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: 69Z28 on May 23, 2013, 03:37:33 AM
Sounds like a plan Dave. I need to sell this block so I can afford a $1500.00 alternator for my Z. There's a  9 E 23 837 being offered on another site but man you can't catch a break in this hobby the way these prices are. The average schmuck doesn't have a chance.



Hey Gary,

just been looking for something closer to my build date, seller asked me to make him an offer, i did, not sure if he will accept, so your not off the hook yet, lol sorry for dragging this on.

i also found another motor built two weeks before my car.

right now waiting on the above motor, it might have some interesting history, i'll share after purchase or i pass.

was told uship is very reasonable and easy.

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 23, 2013, 04:15:57 AM
yea, when you get guys hoarding DZ parts, and guys using DZ parts on there clones   ::), it drives the parts for sale through the roof.

I think I'm gonna build a vintage style TA car VS original date correct&numbers car, that way i dont have to worry about date correct $$$$$ parts, just gonna try to keep as visually correct as possible.

i contacted minilite wheels and i can get a set of wheels for what your getting ready to pay for an alternator.  

sorry if i offended the purist, guess im just another hoarder with some DZ parts ;)
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 23, 2013, 12:32:31 PM
Dave,
for 'pure enjoyment' of your car, your plan is best...  :)
but you're going to enjoy driving it so much, you'd better build up your gasoline fund..  :)
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: BillOhio on May 23, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
Block is 4 days after mine. Mine has an unusual date cast of a109. It's a 661 also. My off-road  am has the 141 stamp also
Title: Re: DZ Stamp
Post by: daves87gn on May 23, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Dave,
for 'pure enjoyment' of your car, your plan is best...  :)
but you're going to enjoy driving it so much, you'd better build up your gasoline fund..  :)

Thank you Gary, thats the plan

Block is 4 days after mine. Mine has an unusual date cast of a109. It's a 661 also. My off-road  am has the 141 stamp also

thanks Bill