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Title: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: ZLP955 on May 13, 2013, 07:49:07 AM

I have a 3rd edition (April 1969) Owner's Manual, and would like to know if there is any way to determine if it is original, or a reproduction?
Not concerned with value, just original or not.
Any help much appreciated.

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: 69Z28 on May 13, 2013, 09:34:46 AM

Hey Tim. I have a reproduction and an original to look at. The Reproduction says it's a reprint and the original doesn't. I don't have them in front of me to check but I think there are some page color differences also on a few pages. I'll look today and add what I find.

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: ZLP955 on May 13, 2013, 10:00:32 AM

Quote from: 69Z28 on May 13, 2013, 09:34:46 AM

I'll look today and add what I find.

Thanks Gary, appreciate it; I have a reproduction around the place somewhere too, but darned if I can find it to check. Must be in that "safe place" along with all the other stuff I can't find.....
I seem to recall the reproductions (reprints) are all the same edition/revision/version, so maybe that will help determine if it is original or not, too?

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: 69pace on May 13, 2013, 11:15:51 AM

Also the official Reproductions do not have the Helm order form at the rear.

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: ZLP955 on May 13, 2013, 08:54:34 PM

Quote from: 69pace on May 13, 2013, 11:15:51 AM

Also the official Reproductions do not have the Helm order form at the rear.

What's the Helm order form Brian?

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: bertfam on May 13, 2013, 09:23:10 PM

HELM, Inc was (and still is) the original publisher for service literature for GM (as well as other companies) cars and trucks. Shop manuals, owner's manuals, overhaul manuals, service manuals, etc...

Here's what the HELM pages (1 and 2) look like in the back of the 69 owners manual.

Ed

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: bertfam on May 13, 2013, 09:23:43 PM

And here's page 3:

Ed

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: ZLP955 on May 13, 2013, 09:31:11 PM

Thanks Ed, I now assume my manual is a reprint since those pages are not present, nor do they appear to have been torn out.

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: 69pace on May 13, 2013, 11:20:24 PM

Couldn't have said it better Ed :)

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: 69Z28 on May 13, 2013, 11:44:09 PM

Tim, my reproduction don't have those pages in the back either, but the oem 3rd edition does.

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: ZLP955 on May 14, 2013, 01:18:15 AM

Thanks Gary

Title: Re: Owner's Manual - 3rd Edition, 1969
Post by: rszmjt on May 14, 2013, 02:35:41 AM

It is Important to note - That Canadian Delivered Cars used a different manual, they had a Red Front Cover instead of Blue, and they dont contain the Helm pages.