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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: sixt9x33rs on March 03, 2013, 01:17:19 AM

Title: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: sixt9x33rs on March 03, 2013, 01:17:19 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Chevy-Camaro-Matching-Motor-4-Speed-Maybe-Early-Z-28-car-NO-RESERVE-/151004076324?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item23288b5924

This one is interesting with the VIN by the oil filter, looks like a 70 rear end out of a Nova, no picture of the stamp on the tranny
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 03, 2013, 01:57:58 AM
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10265.0

VIN: 124379N514669

Paul
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: z28z11 on March 03, 2013, 04:05:45 AM
A challenge - by my count 28 separate incorrect details with this car, minor to major. groups to individual details. The laundry list is large - how many can exist on the same vehicle ? I love the statement 'got the car from a old buddy who told him it was a real Z'. At least the seller asks you to make your own determination or interpretation of originality - and it's already bid to $19K. I'm in the wrong business - I should be selling F1's for a living - but I couldn't get past the obvious.

As always, my own opinions -

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: woodsman1172 on March 03, 2013, 09:16:27 PM
Link below to seller's Photobucket album of this car. Note the album title/description states "69 Z28 CLONE", unlike the eBay ad "maybe a z/28, you determine". Surely an issue with not providing full disclosure.....
http://s1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/logisticnorth/69%20Z28%20CLONE/
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: KurtS on March 03, 2013, 10:03:58 PM
In 2000, the car used to have no original drivetrain or trim tag....
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: tmodel66 on March 03, 2013, 11:54:29 PM
In 2000, the car used to have no original drivetrain or trim tag....

If you really get to thinking about it, it still don't have an Original Drive Train or Trim Tag.  HAHA
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: z28z11 on March 04, 2013, 04:43:15 AM
My concern is the damage these misrepresentations due to our hobby - I guess there is nothing that can keep people from believing what they see as being correct, at least in their minds. Really a shame, but like anything else, it's "buyer beware" - whoever is top bidder on this car is going to have to work hard to get this thing turned into an original car. Probably gets a shock if and when he tries to sell it -

Steve
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: lynnbilodeau on March 04, 2013, 04:56:35 AM
And then there is this guy who thinks this tag is real.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/best-of-the-best-/111021767306?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=111021767306&_rdc=1&forcev4exp=true
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: 69Z28freak on March 04, 2013, 07:28:58 AM
And then there is this guy who thinks this tag is real.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/best-of-the-best-/111021767306?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=111021767306&_rdc=1&forcev4exp=true

Too bad. Looks like someone spent some time to do a not bad restoration. CAutions sticker is always a dead give away that not enough research was done on the car. I just don't get why this is such a problem. Hasn't it been discussed enough for people to catch on?
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: z28z11 on March 08, 2013, 03:12:47 PM
Noticed this one was removed from auction - wonder if it sold, or just removed for further tweaking ? Pretty car, but details like the shroud warning tag are an instant flag that someone didn't complete their homework assignment -

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: Another Tonawanda Z
Post by: 69Z28freak on March 09, 2013, 07:46:57 AM
Noticed this one was removed from auction - wonder if it sold, or just removed for further tweaking ? Pretty car, but details like the shroud warning tag are an instant flag that someone didn't complete their homework assignment -

Regards,
Steve

Agreed