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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: dld2324 on December 18, 2012, 07:05:59 AM
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Deep in to the restoration on my 68 SS and need help. Can some one tell me would my car have the bumbel bee striping or the later striping down the door as I thought I had read some where here that this happened some where around this April time frame. Thanks
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January 2nd, 1968 was the official changover date. At that time the factory went from the D91 (Bumblebee) stripe to the D90 stripe. Your car should have the D90 stripe.
Ed
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Thanks Ed that helps me to get it correct.
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Well just when I thought I had my stripe all figured out now I am wandering what color would have came on my ZZ British Green car with black standard interior and black vinyl top? Please help think it would have been black or would white make it pop?
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Look here:
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors
and you will find that British Green (Z paint code) came with white striping.
As Ed mentioned, British Green was one of the new colors that came in the January changeover.
And white really does pop on British Green. ;D
Post us a picture of your car (in whatever stage you are in) and of the trim tag...
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DLD,
When faced with the same issue with a LeMans blue/black top I went for a black stripe Three tone just did not do it for me. The paint is two shot anyway. I am pleased with my choice. GM defaulted to match the top on some colors and so did I. Google Camaro pictures, You may find both samples.
Good luck
VT
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Thanks for all the info and input now that I have some much originality in this car I up against another dilemma. Seems they do not make British green in lacquer and must go with base/coat clear/coat so I think I will have to go with painting the stripe white verses trying to match up with half paint and half decal. I am with you vtfb68 we had thought a black stripe would blend in much nicer before I found out it was white in 68
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Guys some thing else has got me wandering if white stripe for SS and black for SS tail housing have paint codes?
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Look here:
http://www.69pace.com/paint1968britishgreen.htm
But no vinyl top.
I'm the last one to talk you out of the vinyl top...
If it is a ZZ, you've already moved away from original...
Is you car a BB?
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Man lakeholme did I misunderstand what you were trying to show me. For years I was looking at the ZZ code as British not knowing the double ZZ meaning top and bottom. Would there have been any chance of a vinyl top being installed at the dealer ship. Why would anyone install one later? I bought this car from a drag racer and was just putting it back as I thought it was since it had one on it when I purchased. But it would be stupid to leave it on. I know that just trying to make sense of it all.
As far as paint they tell me they can not get ppg in lacquer any more, is that not true! Will I really devalue upgrading to base c/clear c.
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You can get PPG lacquer from TCP Global. I got all my paint from them. I had a hard time trying to get my interior paint code mixed. I called PPG library and they faxed a formula and wasn't even close but these guys mixed it spot on. Oh BTW the code for the White for the stripes is code 50 Dover White PPG paint code 2058.
http://www.tcpglobal.com
Yes many vinyl tops were dealer installed. Sometimes if a car didn't sell they would add a top to change it up and try to make it more appealing to customers.
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http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=487.0
Take a look at this...
Can't believe I'm saying this, but your car would look best as factory original -ZZ, no top, white stripe.
IMHO.
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Re: SS striping for my April 3rd week car
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2012, 11:57:13 PM »
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Well just when I thought I had my stripe all figured out now I am wandering what color would have came on my ZZ British Green car with black standard interior and black vinyl top? Please help think it would have been black or would white make it pop?
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I have a 68 L78 ZZ paint code 04B Camaro it has the White SS stripe and black standard interior. I do not believe this color ever came with a black stripe. The British Racing green ZZ code paint was popular color when it came out mid year production..i.e. about Jan or Feb 68... My tail panel is black...
Any one know when the first ZZ code car came out?
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here is a photo of my 04B L78 ZZ paint code car
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Here is my 03A on Ebay with orig stripes
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Loaded-68-RS-SS-4-speed-Camaro-/261151128386?_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&forcev4exp=true
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HERE (https://plus.google.com/photos/116600430839508625888/albums/5460127519660014577?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1#photos/116600430839508625888/albums/5460127519660014577?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1) are some nice pictures of Charley's ebay car when Dan Radman (the original owner) had it. (That's Dan in the bottom middle picture standing next to the car) This is a very original car (with a few small exceptions) with some cool options.
Ed
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Great car but it just sits here.
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Very nice cars guys. Charlie wish I was ready for another one that would be a nice driver. GI Joe need to call me again on door hinges I lost your #. What I am needing now is picture of rear of 396 car that is painted black to see were top of black line brakes. I found lots of talk on this but no one spoke of were the line brakes or what color black the tail is?
Thanks Again
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Oh, we're not going to start the black tail panel color and gloss levels again are we? ;D
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HERE YOU GO (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2458.0;all).
And MORE INFO (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=4398.0).
Ed
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Sorry man I'm not going down this tail panel road... i suggest you read all there is posted here... you should have an idea from there... but some better advice to you is to restore exactly what you find on your car.
From week to week, day to day, car to car things changed and just because one Camaro has it does not mean it was done that way on your car. So restore what you find on your car as best you can. However you are correct in looking to a close built car to your build date as chances are your car was built similar... but just speculating here, what if a series of BB cars came down the line with no blacked out tail pan because something happened that day (they're not stopping the production line) .... and your car fell in that build sequence.... this is why I think it is really important to the history of the cars to restore what your car has....
makes me a little sick to see guys reproducing markings and graffiti just because they saw it on another car... matter of fact there is so much of this going on I wonder if it has affected the hobby and known historical truth as to how things were really built...
thank God we have a whole lot of good folks dedicated to the historical truth of the Camaro...and I apologize for not mentioning them all as there are many in this boat and too many to list... some famous and some not ... I could listen to any of them all day long...
Keep in mind that your car was only original once... if too much has changed or was modified and you cannot determine how to put it back then I would really re-consider where I was going with the car... but you do have to do what you like, it is your car... but why spend $$$K on a car (unless it is something super rare or mostly OEM) when you could be doing a mod rod, day 2 car or whatever and going with a color you like and a set up where you are having much more enjoyment from it...
My 2nd Camaro is at the body shop now and I still have thoughts of doing my car as a day2 car (but I have 98% OEM) ... it would be so much easier to paint it metal flake candy apple deep red or maroon... through some Chrome Craigar mags with L-60's on the rear with some old school Lakewood traction bars, 90-10 front shocks, hooker headers, exhaust diverters, a Hurst supper shifter, blow shield, a safety loop and just go out to the strip and show these new cars a thing or two about GM Muscle... 8) ;D :D
sorry I got up on the soap box... but I hope my suggestions help... JOE