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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: ozracer on October 07, 2012, 07:17:35 AM

Title: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: ozracer on October 07, 2012, 07:17:35 AM
HI all new poster from Australia. Currently Im looking for a good condition original 69 camaro. I have found this one on ebay and from the attached pics it looks like the fuel tank may have been replaced unless they came with the grey colour from the factory. Can anyone assist and pick any other discrepancies in the photos supplied?

Its being advertised as a genuine matching numbers car..ALthough I think th eprice is way too high??

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320982657506?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1547wt_966

Kind Regards,

Adam
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: BlackoutSteve on October 07, 2012, 08:44:49 AM
Was for sale in August by same seller.
There are several items that's not original, -not just what could be the fuel tank..
The fuel tanks were galvanised from factory. Whether that's the original tank or a replacement, it does look like it could be a GM. Even a mild rear-end collision would damage the tank, so a replacement within the last 42 years is likely. Many non-GM repros look like, or are painted.

This car has an engine number T1230HC and I'm wondering why the seller has failed to mention it. Car's build date is 2nd week of Feb.
The HC is 350/250hp (RPO L65) 4 speed (could also be 3 speed manual) and 2bbl carb.
http://www.camaros.org/lm1.shtml#L65
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: x77-69z28 on October 07, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
that oil pan looks like it has met the road a few times!
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: JohnZ on October 07, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
Pretty car, but it should have the "short" rear spoiler.
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: tmodel66 on October 07, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
Something is not right. The rear end is built two months after the engine was built. He don't show the trim tag and I'm too lazy to look up the VIN to see when the car was built. But something is definitely wrong.
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: ozracer on October 08, 2012, 02:43:23 AM
Not sure i follow you on that last one the trim is houndstooth and thats qhat it says on the cowl plate i think the code was 722
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: ozracer on October 08, 2012, 06:37:44 AM
Heres an update on all the info on the car...

VIN: 124379L523370
1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8 cylinder engine
37 = Coupe 9 = 1969 model
 L = Manufactured in for Los Angeles assembly plant
Vehicle serial number = 523370
Engine casting # - 3932388 built 27/12/1968
Transmission casting # - 392565 (Saginaw 4 speed)
Rear end casting # - 3894859NF (10 bolt rear end)
Axle stamp # - PG0206G2 (3.08 10 bolt non posi)
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: tmodel66 on October 08, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
OK The engine is not original to the car IMHO. The rear end is probably original. As for the 722 that shows it to be Medium Green Custom. Not Houndstooth.  This is a Mixed Bag of parts put together to make a car again just my opinion. I'd run away from it if I were looking for a numbers matching car. Too many things wrong to be numbers matching. 
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: x77-69z28 on October 08, 2012, 06:06:17 PM
garnet red with a medium green interior? yuch!!!! or is it not the original color. i dont see a rim tag pic anywhere
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: ozracer on October 09, 2012, 11:23:10 AM
where did you get a trim code of 722 I have a photo of the coul tag and its 713 which is hounds tooth. What makes you think the engine isnt original to the car. The sequence number of the engine matches the VIN....
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: ozracer on October 09, 2012, 11:24:46 AM
The engine number is 19L523370-T1230HC which corresponds with the VIN 124379L523370
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: x77-69z28 on October 10, 2012, 03:10:53 AM
Post a pic of the cowl tag
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: tmodel66 on October 10, 2012, 09:23:30 PM
The engine number is 19L523370-T1230HC which corresponds with the VIN 124379L523370

Do you have a picture of the stamp? These things are hard to see most times and I like to see a picture of the trim tag too.
Title: Re: Fuel tank and Car originality
Post by: tmodel66 on October 10, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
where did you get a trim code of 722 I have a photo of the coul tag and its 713 which is hounds tooth. What makes you think the engine isnt original to the car. The sequence number of the engine matches the VIN....

I got the 722 of your post above. Not sure i follow you on that last one the trim is houndstooth and thats qhat it says on the cowl plate i think the code was 722