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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: Danzo on January 21, 2024, 05:19:44 PM
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Has anyone found this or a correct replacement for the dual exhaust tailpipe hangers? Used to secure hanger to tailpipe.
Ty, Doc
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If reproduction is okay. AMK has an 8 piece I-Kit.
G-4344
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What year? Which exhaust option?
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Ty Terry but that kit does not include the long sheet metal screw like the one in my picture.
1969 Coupe V-8 dual exhaust non chambered
Ty, Doc
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I wonder if you Search AMK Bulk and find "Tapping Screws - Hex Head" then select the correct length #14 ? I think ? not sure, cut off any captive washer with a Dremel tool cutting disc.
I bet Gardner has sourced it for their exhaust kits unfortunately they will not sell partial parts.
We need to Check Lloyds Build for possible details.
Jim
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If the picture is your original I'd restore the original as both Lloyd and I have done on much of our hardware during restoration, or at least the hardware that cannot be sourced to match the original screws/bolts.
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Does the AIM not list or show it?
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Shown (1969) AIM, UPC N10/A4 Piece No.3
No hits in AMK.
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On Gardners website they show the rear hangers with a nut and bolt setup. Does anyone have an original screw that they can provide specs on?
Ty, Doc
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I'll look Doc....Joe
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Doc. I just took a quick look at my original exhaust 69 ss396 & it has the bolts as you decribe. I can get those specs tomorrow. Interesting though. I have a pair of original tail pipes out there that still have those hangers & they have the nut & bolt combo.
I just found a picture of the 12k ss396 that Guy had. It's has nut & bolt. His car & the 2 pipes I have are non chrome tail pipes. Mine has chrome...Joe
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Thanks Joe, I think what happens is the hole for the sheet metal screw strips out and is replaced with the nut +bolt combo. The picture I posted has the screw. Gary (69Z28-RS) has an original screw setup, hopefully he will chime in. All the original hangers I have seen have the provision to accept the sheet metal screw vs a smooth hole for a bolt to pass through.
Doc
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I don't agree with that. I believe that several vendors were used. If the hole strips out the nut & bolt won't lay flat on the bracket. The 1st picture is a 12k survivor 375hp that was judged 3 years ago at MCACN. This is a Norwood car built 05A. The next picture is my ss396 which has 157k miles. Built in Norwood 08E 1969....Joe
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Has anyone found this or a correct replacement for the dual exhaust tailpipe hangers? Used to secure hanger to tailpipe.
Ty, Doc
Doc, I purchased a Gardner exhaust for my project and although it's an excellent system overall, a few small parts fell short including the tailpipe clamps (your photo), the heat riser and some fasteners. I replaced the tailpipe clamps and heat riser with NOS which do come available on eBay regularly (I may have extra NOS clamps). The fasteners included with the system are good however I was able to source period correct bolts to attach the tailpipe clamps to the frame and the long head pipe hangers to the floor.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51726028605_b474524f8a_c.jpg)
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Doc. The screw you need looks alot like B-13230 except no washer & it's 1.710 inches of thread. No markings on the head. I didn't see anything like it in AMK. My hangers are stamped for that type screw. The other set I have are stamped for using a bolt & nut. Both are assm line originals....Joe
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Joe, good point on the multiple vendors. All the clamps I have seen (including 2 originals and 2 NOS I have) are screw type. One opening is 1/4" and the other is 5/16". I don't think the B-13230 is coarse enough, hopefully an original will be posted.
Ty, Doc.
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Doc. Mine is original to the car as the picture shows. What do you want to see?....Joe
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Doc. Mine is original to the car as the picture shows. What do you want to see?....Joe
Just trying to get specs on the screw
Doc
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I gave them to you....Joe
B-13230 is 5/16-18
1/2 head
The difference is it has bolt you're asking about has no washer & it's 1.710 of thread
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Sometimes I wonder even with all the variations of exhaust options, why they kept changing the way they mounted a tail pipe. It’s a tail pipe. Well done Lloyd..looks good.
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Doc,
I think I received a PM from you (but I'm unsure) asking about that? I tried to reply but I think it didn't work.. so I'm attaching a photo of my disassembled tailpipe hangar (with the screws) so maybe you can estimate the length.. My estimate would be ~ 1-1/2" in length. \
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It was me, Ty
Doc
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Screw shows the same for chambered as well in the AIM. Parts book shows a standard screw 1/4 20x5/8. Still looking….
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David, the screw you are referencing (1/4-20 x 5/8) describes the screw (2 on each side) that hold the hangar bracket to the frame. They are also 'self threading' screws from the factory.
I thought the screw that Doc was inquiring about was the longer screw holding the pipe clamp bracket together around the pipe... My photo posted previously shows both of these screws removed from the hangar part.
Gary / 69Z28-RS
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This is the current aftermarket available part and is probably the screw. I’ve circled the part in green and the others to help narrow. Is this what we’re referencing this or just the ones holding the bracket to the rear frame?
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We are referencing this long screw?
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Potential source:
Dorman - Autograde Sheet Metal Screw-Hex Washer Head Head-5/16 In. X 1 In.
odds are they offer longer versions
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Link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196185169417?epid=191825059&hash=item2dad8c1e09:g:fjIAAOSwYYFloSAY&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABEDTJ%2FVX1VcsZGsG9mkvH8Fl8JTF9FHe10ju4xGFrqHOF1uZTiQNs4wEd02k9ioBzCieCyeszH7hR9nHdBBvLWwQ6Q%2F9Gvxr2xxCfmSd30YSdHSihdO1BmWvJdbi6OimYBKJuz%2FkUeefwBxLvJhhzvXSpSx7PpvuMCIuGXeBJ3r9tPubF4ihoOK3Te0k%2FNoTWMEiRwup3zyCxMeV4VxycNBLpTII9HOTLtn3Gu0TyyiCDp9K%2FQ84oGJSddBnqDLgeF5nxaHC9W3qaqqifRJUZKJ4cKgvbgSsfwE8r0RqXviv5zDQvBK%2BZu1kSqtblpyc4fOOXb4B4PopvdnJVdDk0b3TzsTX9KTbQd7Pyn6xhvAPw%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5L79_-tYw
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We are referencing this long screw?
That's the one he's referring to. That's the one I gave him specs on...Joe
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Jim, I think Dorman 851-314 is an excellent replacement!
Ty, Doc.