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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: Stamatisg1977 on March 26, 2018, 06:20:44 PM

Title: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 26, 2018, 06:20:44 PM
found protectoplate

vin

124379N685116

frost green 6cyl with black vinyl top
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 26, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
although i have a question on my plate
in the section C 1-5, my plate is stamped COPO5 this doesnt come up on the de-code  any ideas?
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: BULLITT65 on March 26, 2018, 06:57:11 PM
Thanks for posting. And welcome to the CRG.

Can post a picture of the metal tag in the booklet?
Title: Re: 1969 documentation list - updated 3/30/2016
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 26, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
thank you

i cant posts pics since they are above the 500kb requirement but here is a link to it

http://www.camaros.net/forums/15-tag-team/450298-protect-o-plate-help.html#post1783000498
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: bertfam on March 26, 2018, 08:15:24 PM
Stevie, I moved you thread to the Decoding section, and yes, welcome to the site.

COPO5 is most likely some transmission other than what was approved by engineering. In this case it "should" have been a Powerglide. I don't have a lot of info on the COPO codes, but Kurt might and I'm sure he'll chime in shortly.

(and here's the POP)

By the way, from the 12437 VIN code, your car started life as a V8, not an L6 so the engine's been replaced. And from the POP, the engine suffix code of DC indicates the 307 engine with a Powerglide. The transmission code of COPO5 is a real head scratcher though. Maybe the Torque-Drive??? That would require approval since it was only available with the 6 cylinder. What does the transmission indicator on the column read?

Ed
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: KurtS on March 26, 2018, 08:31:11 PM
It's just the date code.
C 0 P 05  (0, not O)
Cleveland powerglide, 1970, 5th day of Sept

Does the POP have a dealer stamp on it?
Does the car still exist?
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: BULLITT65 on March 26, 2018, 08:37:02 PM
pretty cool how you were able to reverse the image.

So that is the first time I have seen the brown tape for the buyers information, has anyone seen that before? Or did each dealer use what ever tape they wanted?

Also I assume the date below that is the date purchased, what does the CEB  and 0003 refer to?
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: bertfam on March 26, 2018, 08:46:42 PM
Quote
It's just the date code.
C 0 P 05  (0, not O)
Cleveland powerglide, 1970, 5th day of Sept

Shouldn't that have been C9P05?

Ed
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 26, 2018, 09:12:07 PM
thanks guys!  i was so excited when we found the POP. i thought i would never find the vin for that car. i dont even know if its still around. if it is, i"ll do a straight up trade with my 69 lol.oh and Bert it always was an 8cyl  my mother told me years and years ago that it was a 6, she obviously doesnt know engines hahaha. just confirmed with my father it was an 8 always
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: KurtS on March 26, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
No, it's a zero because of the extended model year run. They were already into the 1970 model year.

"Some late 69 cars that were built in the extended 69 model year could have received transmissions that were dated for the 1970 model year (i.e. the model year in the transmission code would be a 0 instead of a 9)."
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: dannystarr on March 27, 2018, 02:13:23 AM
I think you can just hold it up to a mirror and read it?.. Danny
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: KurtS on March 27, 2018, 02:22:47 AM
In Irfanview and a bunch of other photo editors, it's the mirror function. I use it all the time....
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: BULLITT65 on March 27, 2018, 03:24:01 AM
Guess I have a inferior viewer. Haven't seen those options on mine
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Mike S on March 27, 2018, 03:47:51 AM
Photoshop has a 'rotate horizontal' feature to do image reversal.

Mike
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 27, 2018, 04:03:29 AM
I used adobe photoshop express app for my iphone
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 27, 2018, 10:16:22 PM
my mother said it was bought at Brown Chevrolet in smithtown NY
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Mike S on March 27, 2018, 11:10:14 PM
 "Ronkonkoma....Ronkonkoma......last stop, Ronkonkoma"   Man, I have heard that announcement thousands of times when I commuted between the Ronkonkoma train station and NYC .
  Stam,
 Are you from LI?

Mike
Title: Re: Found Protectoplate
Post by: Stamatisg1977 on March 28, 2018, 12:27:07 AM
Yessir! My grandpa used to take the train everyday to work. When i was a kid and sometimes we would pick him up and he would be hanging out inbetween the two cars as it stopped liked it was the 20’s