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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: william on February 28, 2017, 01:08:39 PM

Title: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: william on February 28, 2017, 01:08:39 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-SS396-TH400-Automatic-/112318280049?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a26b0f171:g:9soAAOSw2gxYtN59&item=112318280049

Ad text does not mention it is a clone. Has 6-cylinder VIN 123379N512483.

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: maroman on February 28, 2017, 01:59:59 PM

I think that's like making chicken salad out of chicken shtt. He didn't lie, he just didn't tell the truth.

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: william on February 28, 2017, 03:42:54 PM

Dealers often don't know. Jack of all trades, master of none.

Old marketing adage: If you can't fix it, feature it. Car looks to be a decent build, a fun street machine for cruise night. That's how I would advertise it. Needs a 12 bolt though.

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: buenymayor on March 01, 2017, 01:05:15 PM

Looks like they put a disclaimer in the ad:

 On Mar-01-17 at 04:29:24 PST, seller added the following information:

This 1969 Camaro is a nice clean car it is our understanding that this car started its life as a V6 car. The conversion to a V8 and other options were very well done. Please call with any questions. 
   

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: william on March 01, 2017, 04:26:00 PM

Appears that Grand Rapids Classics is an honest business!

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: 69Z28-RS on March 01, 2017, 09:22:26 PM

..??..  Is that even possible??  for a used car dealer?  :)   

J/K..  It IS good that they updated their ad when they received correct information; it might even HELP them sell the car!

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: Z28Project on March 02, 2017, 12:16:03 AM

Today's car culture...every 6 is a V6.   :D

Kudos to them for calling out the non-V8 origin of the car!

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: dannystarr on March 02, 2017, 08:34:51 AM

I might have helped some?

 ME : Just friendly FYI,... This car has a 6 cylinder VIN. CANNOT be an original V8 car. Be careful of lawsuits. I would do the right thing and change the description.
 
Seller : I know it has a 6 cylinder VIN. I never said it was a real SS

Me: I know, BUT ya never said it wasn't either. Be honest and post it as originally a 6 cylinder car that has been converted. You KNOW the info, do the right thing and share it. I will be watching the auction. If and when it sells, I will run the plate and contact the new owner. I will inform him this info.

Seller : We changed the add to make sure people know it started as a V6 car.

 Me: Good on you!

Title: Re: Caveat Emptor...silence is not golden
Post by: william on March 02, 2017, 01:28:56 PM

Not accusing anyone of dishonesty. As I said dealers/sellers may not know a car has a problem. Last December a widow had a friend list her late husbands' '67 Chevelle SS convert for sale on the SYC site. Someone noted it had hardtop tags. She didn't know, he wasn't aware either.

Never buy a collector car without a prior inspection by someone knowledgeable.