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Title: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: boomer632 on March 24, 2023, 02:51:48 PM
Im looking for info on where the smaller engine lift ring goes for 396. Im good on the front drivers side ring, but have no clue where the smaller on goes or or how its attached.
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: bertfam on March 24, 2023, 03:13:47 PM
It attaches to the back of the head (see arrow in the picture attached). Note that the picture is a Corvette 427, but the Camaro 396 is the same.

Ed
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: boomer632 on March 24, 2023, 05:55:58 PM
Thank you sir!
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: 68camaroz28 on March 28, 2023, 09:49:22 PM
It attaches to the back of the head (see arrow in the picture attached). Note that the picture is a Corvette 427, but the Camaro 396 is the same.

Ed

Good pic Ed! The bolt should be painted thou, correct?
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: bertfam on March 28, 2023, 10:24:37 PM
To be honest Chick, I'm not sure but I believe so. If I remember correctly, John said the brackets were installed prior to painting the engine so it would be painted (or not if it was an L89). However, the engine in that picture is a little "too perfect" if you know what I mean. At 300 per hour in the spray booth (one every 12 seconds) they didn't get a lot of attention!

Ed

Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: x66 714 on March 29, 2023, 12:43:45 AM
I spent a little over 12 seconds on mine but not much :)
Joe
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: 68camaroz28 on March 29, 2023, 11:26:54 AM
I spent a little over 12 seconds on mine but not much :)
Joe
LOL, Joe, good one! Just to clarify for future searches in some restorations people go to great detail to show the lift brackets were used to paint the engine which is not technically correct as they were not used as one can see from Ed's picture. 
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: bertfam on March 29, 2023, 03:46:36 PM
Chick, originally John said that picture was from the late 60's or early 70's but I believe it's from earlier than that, before the lift brackets were used, because I don't see the front driver side bracket attached. During that time they used the carb mounting holes to hold the engine up while painting. I don't believe John ever stated what they used in 1968 and later so it may have been the same thing as before (more than likely since why change things if it works), or the actual lift brackets themselves. I just don't have the info to say how it was done after 1967.

And of course I'm not positive on the date of that picture either!

Ed
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: 68camaroz28 on March 30, 2023, 02:23:26 AM
Chick, originally John said that picture was from the late 60's or early 70's but I believe it's from earlier than that, before the lift brackets were used, because I don't see the front driver side bracket attached. During that time they used the carb mounting holes to hold the engine up while painting. I don't believe John ever stated what they used in 1968 and later so it may have been the same thing as before (more than likely since why change things if it works), or the actual lift brackets themselves. I just don't have the info to say how it was done after 1967.
And of course I'm not positive on the date of that picture either!

Ed

Good points Ed..... From what we discussed the lift brackets started in '68 per conversations I had with him as he was engineering team leader developing them to utilize on the engine dress line but engine painting process did not change as you suggested. Prior to '68 the engine dress line used fixtures to hold by the exhaust manifolds.
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: bertfam on March 30, 2023, 01:13:02 PM
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Prior to '68 the engine dress line used fixtures to hold by the exhaust manifolds.

Several prior to 1968 and only two for 1968 and later!!

Ed

Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: william on March 30, 2023, 04:07:06 PM
Whatever you do, don't do this.

100% incorrect for any engine with aluminum intake and chrome or cast rocker covers.



Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: boomer632 on March 30, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
I installed my front lift ring other day and left it bare metal.
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: william on March 30, 2023, 08:59:59 PM
They were often brush-painted silver with aluminum intakes.
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: boomer632 on March 30, 2023, 10:00:06 PM
Ok can do that..
Title: Re: 396 Engine lift rings
Post by: 68camaroz28 on March 31, 2023, 02:55:37 PM
They were often brush-painted silver with aluminum intakes.
Excellent Point William, NCRS & newer '69 Camaro judging guidelines accept painted silver or natural. I like the painted silver and have noted on several survivors.

And Ed, great picture of fixtures from '68 to '69.