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General Discussion / Re: JL8 Z28

« on: July 20, 2016, 01:22:45 AM »

Charley, you a buyer, or checking it out for a friend?

Never seen an original Z with that much white on the firewall.  I have pics of mine before resto, and there was BARELY a mist beyond the parting line.
Original owner til 2009?   So, what did happen to the clock?   Maybe the gauges and console were added?  Lots of restorers take considerable poetic license.

Noticed Oklahoma tags on two of the "Donald Smith" collection cars, including this one.  I don't know who he is (not surprising, as I don't run in the circles with the big time collectors).   Anyone know anything about this collection, and where it is?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Question about 69 z28 Crankshaft Pulley

« on: March 22, 2016, 10:53:46 PM »

I will look at the font on my original pulley tonight.

I can tell you this:  2 seconds after you start the car, you will know if it is a repop.   They are horrible.   Not very round, or true.  Easy to spot.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...which is the real VIN?

« on: March 22, 2016, 10:42:37 PM »

Color change hurts as does the incorrect rear stripe treatment.  Not sure why so many guys add style trim chrome on the X77 cars.

50k and up, those things need to be correct, IMHO.

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General Discussion / Re: 67 Z-28 going to auction

« on: March 21, 2016, 03:33:49 AM »

Way to go guys.   Frankly, I am surprised that Mecum changed the wording on the description.   They have historically relied on the "representation" of the owner, even if it is obvious the owner is either misinformed, lying, or both.

I have become suspect of the pedigree of any car selling at Mecum or coming out of Florida with "documentation". 

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Restoration / Re: cowl panel paint

« on: March 11, 2016, 01:52:50 PM »

It is the exact same paint used to paint the stripes.   White lacquer, just not polished.

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Originality / Re: 69 Vinyl Top Windshield Trim Molding Reveal Retainer Clips

« on: November 24, 2015, 01:49:07 AM »

I do not believe ANY of the parts places (amk, hbc, etc.) have the correct clips for non vinyl top cars.

I have no idea if they fit vinyl top cars.

Look  here:  http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/517501/more-free-clips#Post517501

and here:  http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/514397/re-windshield-trim-clips-sorry#Post514397

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1969 - Orphans / Re: 9N682328 - Protect-O-Plate

« on: November 17, 2015, 09:57:55 PM »

What a cool car.   Convertible 6 cyl 4 speed.

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Originality / Re: Argent siverl for grill

« on: October 02, 2015, 09:24:36 PM »

So, James, do you have a lacquer paint code for the silver grill color?

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Originality / Argent siverl for grill

« on: September 27, 2015, 09:39:18 PM »

I know this has been asked before, but is the grill color argent silver the same as Cortez Silver?

I am not interested in the wheels.  I know they were enamel, and although called the same color, never seem to be a dead on match to the lacquer on the grill.

I painted my car a few years ago, and everything came out well EXCEPT the grill.   it is too dark.   I bought a quart of what was supposed to be PPG acrylic lacquer that I was assured was the same color as argent silver for 69 Camaro grill.    First, I have a really hard time believing it is PPG.   I have used PPG many times and always got good coverage.   This stuff took 6 coats or more to cover.   It was way too translucent.   Secondly, as noted above, it is way too dark.

I know PPG still makes lacquer.   I cannot buy it in OK (distributor's choice.... as no law precludes it), but it is available on line.   The quart I got a few years ago, was in a relabeled can, not a PPG can.  Says code 8568.

So, anyone know if they are the same?   If not, anyone have the PPG number for Argent Silver?

Thanks in advance.

Lynn

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles

« on: July 05, 2015, 06:49:20 PM »

BTW, there is an 08D Z on ebay.   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-/191615774396?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2c9d30aebc&item=191615774396

Had a color change from FG to burgundy, so it will be no help on the sticker issue.  BDY number 103834

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles

« on: July 05, 2015, 06:11:26 PM »

My car's history is a complete dead end for anything prior to my brother purchasing in 1975.   He was only 15.   The car was sitting behind a repair shop when he bought it from the business owner.   No one remembers the name of the business.  Years ago I even tracked down the former owner of the building.   Turned out to be a retired judge.  I was able to find him in the 90's.   He  had no recollection of who the tenant was in 75, and told me he had multiple tenants during the 70's but kept no records.
That was my first dead end.   The second one was the Tax Commission "losing" any record of the car prior to my ownership.   They don't even have a record of my brother owning it for that year (I traded for it in 1976).    It really doesn't matter to me if it is the original rear or not.  But.... would be nice to know.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles

« on: July 05, 2015, 03:46:36 PM »

I guess I incorrectly assumed that Berry's white Z was an unrestored car.   I have the earlier version of Jerry's book, and IIRC (big if) it just refers to it as a 5000 mile Z.  Don't know why you would restore a 5000 mile car.   But then, mine had only 26000 on it and if DEFINITELY needed restoring.  It had been rode hard and put up wet.
Personally, I don't know that the mileage makes much difference once a car is restored, other than mileage since restoration.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles

« on: July 04, 2015, 08:28:29 PM »

Lynn, not all government workers are bad.

I know not all Gov workers are bad.  Just easy to make fun of them.... like making fun of lawyers, right?   And I do that too.

There were very minor dents just in front of the pinion snubber, but nothing bigger than a pencil eraser.  I worked them out when I was detailing the floor, and did not have to use any filler.

Yes, I now know the 1 70 tank was first week of Aug.  Just didn't know at the time, and probably would not have used it anyway because of the dented up bottom.

Owning an 08A car has made me take special note over the years when I see one.   Seems that dated components are all over the place.  I have seen an 08A car with a May dated engine, as well as one with an Aug. 2 dated engine.  Engines, alts, distributors and trannys are all over the place, especially transmissions.

Also, 08A is when they started using the mylar vin decal in the door.   I know my car should have received one, but it didn't.  The John Berry car, which probably rolled out the same day, did get the sticker.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Gas tank date codes

« on: July 03, 2015, 09:17:30 PM »

Kurt.  You can add my 08A car to the mix.   Tank was dated 1 70.   I thought it was a replacement tank under warranty, as I did not know they started dating for 70 in Aug.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles

« on: July 03, 2015, 09:14:36 PM »

I no longer have the tank.  One of my nephews decided to jack the car up by the gas tank back in the late 80's.   He was about 10 years old at the time.

I did pressurize the tank to pop the dent out, and it wasn't leaking, but it was just too ugly.   I gave it to a local guy who was building a 69 on a tight budget and needed a tank.

I had no idea that tanks were dated as much as 4 months after the car build.  Will have too look for that thread.  Makes no sense.   Perhaps a government worker was put in charge of gas tank dating.