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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: fireZ on October 16, 2007, 09:29:07 PM
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Were would I look on a manuel steering box to find dates?
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Were would I look on a manuel steering box to find dates?
firez -
For your build date, it should be cast right on top (looking straight down from the master cylinder) of the steering gear housing just below the casting number (5679142). It will be a Julian date like 363 (December 29, 1967). Please let me know what you find... :)
Paul
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Mine actually has a cast of 262 as far as I can see.
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Mine actually has a cast of 262 as far as I can see.
262 = September 19, 1967 on your '68 02E car.
Paul
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There is a machined pad on the box that has the assembly date. It's the Julian format too. I couldn't see mine until I cleaned it up. It's on the box where the cover goes on and is about 4 o'clock from the lash adjuster nut looking toward the firewall.
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Yes I have that pad cleaned off and it is 82926.
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What year car? Mine is a 68 and it has A 1318. A is the first shift, 131st day of 1968 and matches the rest of my car. Maybe the first 8 is a B. The 292 is the Julian date and the 6 is for 1966? http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#Calendar
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I took the steering box off the car and cleaned the pad up real good.Numbers are as follow B292 7. Hard to read in the car with weak eyes.
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I hear that. To check mine I've got to get the coke bottles out and a 10 million candle power light. Sucks getting old (er). So is that the original box?
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There is a machined pad on the box that has the assembly date. It's the Julian format too. I couldn't see mine until I cleaned it up. It's on the box where the cover goes on and is about 4 o'clock from the lash adjuster nut looking toward the firewall.
Thanks 68Z! I've never noticed (or have heard about) the machined pad with the assembly code stamped on the manual steering gear housing. Very cool! So the cast julian date just below the steering gear housing casting number (5679142) is the date the housing was cast (like the casting date on an engine block) and the stamped assembly code on the machined pad is the date the steering gear was assembled (like the stamped engine assembly code on the engine pad). Anybody know how to decipher the stamped assembly code on a first generation Camaro manual steering gear?
Paul
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Anybody know how to decipher the stamped assembly code on a first generation Camaro manual steering gear?
Anybody...?
Paul
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Paul,
Patience grasshopper! :)
A or B (shift or plant, I've never seen it confirmed)
Then Julian date, then year (single digit).
'A 032 9' is Feb 1, 69.
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Paul,
Patience grasshopper! :)
A or B (shift or plant, I've never seen it confirmed)
Then Julian date, then year (single digit).
'A 032 9' is Feb 1, 69.
Kurt,
Thanks Master! :)
Steering gear housing cast date: 363 (Friday 12-29-67)
Steering gear assemble date: B 036 8 (Shift or plant B on Monday 2-5-68)
Van Nuys build date: 02C
I just wanted to be sure we were deciphering the code correctly because firez's '68 Van Nuys built Z/28 was built after mine (02E), yet his steering gear was cast and assembled months before mine. ???
Thanks again.
Paul
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I dug through a couple boxes of parts that were in the trunk of my Z when I bought it and found another steering box. It looks like every
seal is gone in the steering box.Just for fun I degreased it and was able to read the build date on it. Makes me wonder if it was on the car and removed when it developed leaks everywere. Date as far as I can see is A0198 Pitman arm is 5.75 inches with GM part #3908391.
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Date as far as I can see is A0198.
fireZ -
That assembly date is alot closer to mine (B0368). :)
Paul
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Does the pitman arm # I gave you mean anything?
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That's the # on mine. It's one of the 67 leftover parts used for my build date. http://www.pozziracing.com/camaro_steering.htm#Steering_linkage
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That is some good information and mahes things easier to understand.
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There is a salvage yard near where I live that has a many older cars with the many “typical” parts still intact.
During the restoration of my 69 RS Z, I spent a day at this yard, look for a few odds and ends, and noted the date codes on various items vs. the build date of the car for reference. My notes were taken 12/18/97. I can not verify if these steering boxes were ever replaced and original to the car, so take this info as reference only.
The box assy date code were all stamped on the al. box cover, in the machined pad area on the RH (passenger side) of the box. Two (2) of the covers still had the oval yellow decal toward the back LH side area of the cover under a layer of grease and dirt. Sorry I did not have a digital camera back them or I would have photo documented the data codes and boxes.
Here is the list:
Car Build Date Steering Box Date Separation (months)
69 Firebird 11A 277 8 1
68 Firebird 03C 031 8 2
68 Impalla 10C 280 8 same month
68 Impalla tag missing 235 7 ?
71 Pontiac Pass. Car 10C 284 1 same month
66 Pontiac Pass. Car 10D 256 5 1
66 Chevelle Malib 12C 399 6 over 365, 399 may be wrong or a stamp error
74 Nova 10A 240 4 2
69 Pontiac Pass. Car 07E 171 9 1
68 Chevelle Pass Car 05B 078 8 2
My 69 Z 05A 081 9 2
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Here is the list:
Car Build Date Steering Box Date Separation (months)
69 Firebird 11A 277 8 1
68 Firebird 03C 031 8 2
68 Impalla 10C 280 8 same month
68 Impalla tag missing 235 7 ?
71 Pontiac Pass. Car 10C 284 1 same month
66 Pontiac Pass. Car 10D 256 5 1
66 Chevelle Malib 12C 399 6 over 365, 399 may be wrong or a stamp error
74 Nova 10A 240 4 2
69 Pontiac Pass. Car 07E 171 9 1
68 Chevelle Pass Car 05B 078 8 2
My 69 Z 05A 081 9 2
Thanks Dave! Great info! :)
Paul