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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: black69 on October 26, 2023, 04:58:29 PM
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Hi, I never posted a tag of my original survivor, and it seems when a 10 10 car comes up, there is always concern they are fake.
I was just going to send it to Kurt (if he wants it), but if there is one or 2 at most others, please pm me.
I have been under the hood lately on the car, and thought why not share the info (but not to aid those doing fakes). The firewall has B L K written on it (faint white-ish, likely a white grease pencil when new), or maybe it was BLCK letters, that I can check on and post a picture if anyone wanted. maybe they do this to all the firewalls.
-bob
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That is very cool Bob. You can send to me and I will send out the pics to those in the core group that will find it of interest.
If you want the firewall writing posted here, I can do that too.
Bryon
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Hi Byron, I will send you a picture you can add for me as I have been terrible with posting pictures lately, still struggling with flicker. Plenty of folks help me on this website so always want to return the favor.
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I will help you any way I can.
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Pic one showing what looks like BLA then part of C and part of K.
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Pic 2 showing ACK
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thanks Bryon, I will eventually get with posting pics on my own again ;)
It is pretty cool they wrote the whole word out and did not abreviate to say 3 letters. Its been likely 17 yrs since I paid any attention to this stuff under the hood.
I should note my car is a 10 B and not a 10 10 like I thought on the tag. I would like to learn if all cars had writing on their firewalls and what it relates to. Also, how do they know to paint the endura bumper during assembly, what tells them to do so.
-bob
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Ever consider doing a preservation on the car? Looks like it'd be an amazing candidate.
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Photo from 2006.
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I like the red stripe. The car looks great and I think it would look amazing with red interior!
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I like the red stripe. The car looks great and I think it would look amazing with red interior!
It's a Black Houndstooth interior car. Stunning.
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Ever consider doing a preservation on the car? Looks like it'd be an amazing candidate.
Thanks, I pretty much have left it as is, other than use vinegar to get the mice smell out of the trunk. I still have 3 of the original tires (they were used only on the front of the car as the back always had H series poly. I had it at chevy vette fest once (vintage/survivor display) before that show became MCACN. It was always kept in a barn on a carpeted dirt floor in Wisconsin and it has no rust. The original owner poured motor oil in the back wheel wells from inside the trunk to prevent rust. I am sure I will wipe off more of the bottom of the car once I get my 2 post lift working. The engine compartment could use a dust rinse off probably from the farm it was kept at most of its life.
I need to learn more about whether all/some Camaros have this writing on the firewall, if its on the cowl tag for black body, black v top, then why write BLACK on the firewall? Could it be something for a black tail panel car? or painted bumper?.
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Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atkLtoC_SQg
Date Codes 16:34
Firewall Markings _34:32____
I understand this speaker is from the A body Baltimore plant but at least it is one first persons perspective.
Note I think His contention is that the Crayon is Below the firewall blackout & Brite Fresh on top restorations is incorrect.
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Jim that is a very good video. Unfortunately there were variations by plant.
Most of the firewall writing would have been buried under the blackout, but that can not be said for all cases.
Here is a factory line pic, rotation or sequence number for the day.
Now there is probably no way to know, but the BLACK could have been for a vinyl top. I am going to ask around a bit. That could have been put there after the firewall blackout.
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I was thinking my firewall said C08 but that picture didn't show anything......Joe
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I was thinking my firewall said C08 but that picture didn't show anything......Joe
Which picture are you referring to? Is it posted somewhere?
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I didn't post a picture from my car because I couldn't see it in the pictures, I was going from memory when I restored it a few years back. The firewall was media stripped so I could see that detail that was under the paint....Joe
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Now I understand. Thanks
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The body color was on the tag and then written on the firewall so it was easier to see/read.
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Kurt, but in most cases that is buried under the firewall blackout. Body paint is before firewall blackout.
To me it makes more sense that black refers to the vinyl top.
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Could be. Most of the colors are written on the firewall, then the firewall blackout is done. And over the years the writing bleeds through (wax markers are not a good surface for the blackout paint to adhere to).
Bob's writing looks like it's more on top.
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You can see on mine where it say BYEL (bright yellow), C60 A/C & 259 near the top. All under the paint....Joe
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Body color written on firewall - "RGRN" for Rally Green here. 10A build.
I believe interior paint color was written on the passenger side rear seat bulkead (on at least early norwood cars). "LG" for light green interor paint (officially "Medium Green"). Fisher needed an easy way to know what color to paint inside and outside on the back half of the car.
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Body color written on firewall - "RGRN" for Rally Green here. 10A build.
I believe interior paint color was written on the passenger side rear seat bulkead (on at least early norwood cars). "LG" for light green interor paint (officially "Medium Green"). Fisher needed an easy way to know what color to paint inside and outside on the back half of the car.
Was the RGRN on the firewall blackout on under it?
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Body color written on firewall - "RGRN" for Rally Green here. 10A build.
I believe interior paint color was written on the passenger side rear seat bulkead (on at least early norwood cars). "LG" for light green interor paint (officially "Medium Green"). Fisher needed an easy way to know what color to paint inside and outside on the back half of the car.
Was the RGRN on the firewall blackout on under it?
I can't say for certain either way. I did not find firewall marking until my car was apart. Maybe 23 years ago or so. Owned it over 40 years so no resto grafitti. I did spray bomb the firewall black at that time.
Found a few inspection marks (not all 3) on the side of the firewall (behind the front fenders once they were off).
Rear bulkhead marks were yellow, very dry, almost chalky. Some of it rubbed off when touched. Found that marking back about 1979. "LG7"
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Note: Non-standard color combination. Required some signatures to get it built that way, I believe. UGLY. :o