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General Discussion / Re: 69 ZL1 engine for sale
« on: February 13, 2024, 06:01:15 PM »
4800 Chestnut St Philly. Now Central City Toyota.
Last ad they ran only listed #44.
Last ad they ran only listed #44.
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General Discussion / Re: 69 ZL1 engine for sale
« on: February 13, 2024, 04:14:06 PM »
The 37 Gibb ZL-1s returned to Chevrolet/Norwood were re-distributed to high-performance dealerships. A former Merollis Chevrolet employee stated they were awarded a new Corvette allocation for each ZL-1. #44 was initially shipped to Penske but may have been DX'd to another dealership, possibly Degnan's.
#17 and #25 survive with their original engines. #44 is unknown.
#17 and #25 survive with their original engines. #44 is unknown.
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General Discussion / Re: Prepping the 302 for heavy-duty service & 2x4 intake info
« on: February 12, 2024, 03:42:52 PM »OK, why would it not be recommended to put new rocker arms in the exhaust position, only used ones?
In his book "The Unfair Advantage" Penske driver Mark Donohue mentioned having problems with burned rocker arms & balls during the '67 season. It became their practice to swap rockers and balls that had mated on an intake valve to an exhaust valve. Exhaust parts run much hotter than intakes; used parts resisted burning better than new ones.
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General Discussion / Re: 69 ZL1 engine for sale
« on: February 11, 2024, 05:10:11 PM »Supposedly there were two ZL 1s ordered by the local dealer, one blue and the other yellow. The drag racer that worked there swapped the engines for iron engines before the cars were sold and the aluminum blocks went in his funny car. I saw the yellow car but only heard about the blue one.
Brewers Chevrolet, Campton KY had the other Daytona Yellow ZL-1. Rumored to have been sold with an L-72 427.
The car has been restored; the engine survives elsewhere. Only ZL-1 Camaro they had. Campton KY has a population of 424 so I guess one was adequate inventory.
ZL-1 auto msrp $4160.50
ZL-1 4-speed msrp $4160.15
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General Discussion / Re: 69 ZL1 engine for sale
« on: February 10, 2024, 11:42:56 PM »
No.
My interest ends with the last Winters casting, approximately 7/31/69. Just for the record, Winters must have completed about 325 bare blocks.
My interest ends with the last Winters casting, approximately 7/31/69. Just for the record, Winters must have completed about 325 bare blocks.
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General Discussion / Re: 69 ZL1 engine for sale
« on: February 10, 2024, 10:10:14 PM »
Fran Preve, an Engineer at the Tonawanda engine plant, reported ZL-1 production numbers in 1987:
ME Corvette manual 80
MG Corvette auto 14
ML Camaro manual 54
MM Camaro auto 34
Of the 182, 71 were used in production. The ZL-1 program was shut down as of June, 1969 and remaining stock placed in GMPD inventory.
ME Corvette manual 80
MG Corvette auto 14
ML Camaro manual 54
MM Camaro auto 34
Of the 182, 71 were used in production. The ZL-1 program was shut down as of June, 1969 and remaining stock placed in GMPD inventory.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...tag swap?
« on: February 10, 2024, 05:58:10 PM »
Wouldn't be the first time I have seen that at a dealer.
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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...tag swap?
« on: February 10, 2024, 05:27:03 PM »
Another NOR/VN swap?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/315150024937
124379N605034
Reported VIN is for a Camaro built at the Norwood, OH plant on or about February 27, 1969
Body tag is from a Camaro built at the Van Nuys, CA plant on or about January 9, 1969.
One or both tags may not be original to the car; hidden VINs may not match.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/315150024937
124379N605034
Reported VIN is for a Camaro built at the Norwood, OH plant on or about February 27, 1969
Body tag is from a Camaro built at the Van Nuys, CA plant on or about January 9, 1969.
One or both tags may not be original to the car; hidden VINs may not match.
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General Discussion / Re: Ford-No more paper owners manual books.
« on: February 10, 2024, 05:09:12 PM »
Acura has been doing that for years. I suspect others also. Our 2020 RDX came with a small Owner's Guide, about all the average person would need to know. We had six months from delivery to request an owners' manual n/c and did. 653 pages; nope haven't needed it.
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General Discussion / Re: 69 ZL1 engine for sale
« on: February 10, 2024, 04:40:57 PM »
There were zero ZL-1 'CE' warranty engines built.
The few production ZL-1 Camaros that had engine failures received reconfigured ME code Corvette ZL-1 engines.
The few production ZL-1 Camaros that had engine failures received reconfigured ME code Corvette ZL-1 engines.
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General Discussion / Re: Pretty nice 69 Z going for sale Feb 17
« on: February 05, 2024, 07:40:15 PM »
'Exterior is reportedly 1 of just over 1,000 Z/28 Camaros ever produced in 1969, and only 1 of less than 175 that were manufactured with a Vinyl Top."
Huh?
Huh?
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General Discussion / Re: rebody Z made Hot Rod
« on: February 05, 2024, 03:17:02 PM »
Last year, I received a 3 year/$32 extension offer from Hot Rod. First subscribed in the '60s, 89¢/mo. sounded like a great deal.
The January 2024 issue carried this notice. Well played Hot Rod!
Marlan Davis was also a big loss.
The January 2024 issue carried this notice. Well played Hot Rod!
Marlan Davis was also a big loss.
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Original Cars and Details / Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« on: January 23, 2024, 12:19:07 AM »
A coupe with 720 interior was rare at Van Nuys. Only know of one other, also built late in June.
Let's see that window sticker!
Let's see that window sticker!
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General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z/28 02D 1100837 Alternator Hook Fan Color and Thickness
« on: January 19, 2024, 11:08:16 PM »
The Legends manual states the 'hook' fan is early production; non-hook version starts around May. The car in the photo is known to be a Fall '68 build.
In addition, the survivor '69 Z/28 that came to light last year is a Dec '68 build; has a non-hook fan. Scroll to post #6.
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175266
My guess, both were used.
In addition, the survivor '69 Z/28 that came to light last year is a Dec '68 build; has a non-hook fan. Scroll to post #6.
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175266
My guess, both were used.
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General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z/28 02D 1100837 Alternator Hook Fan Color and Thickness
« on: January 19, 2024, 10:21:09 PM »
Engine bay photo dated November 1968.