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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 01:01:36 AM

Title: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 01:01:36 AM
Just an interesting fact I noticed the other day.

There were more 1968 396 BB SS Camaros than small block 350 SS Camaros .

Strange to think about that.  I would never have thought that would be true!!   :o 8)
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: David K on February 22, 2024, 02:05:27 AM
I would say that’s an erroneous statement because the small block was only available in just one hp rating. The 396 had 4 different versions.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: 68 Ragtop on February 22, 2024, 03:24:44 AM
I would say that’s an erroneous statement because the small block was only available in just one hp rating. The 396 had 4 different versions.

I don't see how that is erroneous. Add up all the 4 versions of BB available and compare it to the one small block version available as an SS. There you go, more big block SS than small block SS in 1968.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: x66 714 on February 22, 2024, 12:00:12 PM
Actually, there were only 3 different 396 engines in 1968, L34, L35, & L78. The L89 was a cyl head option that could've been ordered with the L78 engine....Joe
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: 68 Ragtop on February 22, 2024, 12:54:24 PM
Actually, there were only 3 different 396 engines in 1968, L34, L35, & L78. The L89 was a cyl head option that could've been ordered with the L78 engine....Joe

Nope. You have to add the 272 L89 engines and the 4575 L78 together. It also has it's own engine suffix code, MT vs MQ.

Show me a 1968 WS that has both L78 and L89 options on it and I will change my mind.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: 169INDY on February 22, 2024, 03:50:00 PM
I will Bite:

From a Marketing point of view, the 396 was competition (?) <Timing??> to the introduced Mustang 390 (GT/GTA), unfortunately I bet the Stang BB cars smoked the Camaro as far as quantities.  The Vintage ads seem to promote the Super Sports in general in 1968, there is a great variety and often the internal Big Brther was included (Vette).

OK Post up your 68 Ads I have a BUNCH hanging in the Garage being a 68 Guy at Heart.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: FRANKTHECRANK on February 22, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
From a Marketing point of view, the 396 was competition to the introduced Mustang 390 , unfortunately I bet the Stang BB cars smoked the Camaro as far as quantities.  T

Well, the Mustang had a 3 year head start at developing a following, and lets not forget, it was heavily marketed toward women so they got a huge push in sales with the females.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 06:22:05 PM
I would say that’s an erroneous statement because the small block was only available in just one hp rating. The 396 had 4 different versions.

Well, I don't know what your point is.

It is a fact that there were more small block SS Camaros than BB SS Camaros in 1968.
IT doesn't matter what horsepower ratings were.
So you are More likely to find a BB SS 68 than a SB SS 68 Camaro.

My statement was NOT erroneous in any way.
  :) :) :)
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 06:25:08 PM
From a Marketing point of view, the 396 was competition to the introduced Mustang 390 , unfortunately I bet the Stang BB cars smoked the Camaro as far as quantities.  T

Well, the Mustang had a 3 year head start at developing a following, and lets not forget, it was heavily marketed toward women so they got a huge push in sales with the females.
Very True!  My Mom bought a Mustang in 1966.   :o :o :)
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 06:46:32 PM
I would say that’s an erroneous statement because the small block was only available in just one hp rating. The 396 had 4 different versions.

I don't see how that is erroneous. Add up all the 4 versions of BB available and compare it to the one small block version available as an SS. There you go, more big block SS than small block SS in 1968.

You are correct!  My point was not how many Camaros with different horse power ratings.  Thanks.  Tim  :)
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 06:50:15 PM
CRG is Awesome!!  Great info.

 
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: maroman on February 22, 2024, 08:12:39 PM
Are we soon done with the mine is bigger then yours BS?
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: Badshifter on February 22, 2024, 08:20:53 PM




It is a fact that there were more small block SS Camaros than BB SS Camaros in 1968.

My statement was NOT erroneous in any way.
  :) :) :)

Quoted for irony!
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 10:28:10 PM
oops  :)  That's what happens when I type to fast and don't proof read.  Oh the irony.  lol

Correction below.  hahaha!!

It is a fact that there were more Big block SS Camaros than Small block SS Camaros in 1968.
IT doesn't matter what horsepower ratings were.
So you are More likely to find a BB SS 68 than a SB SS 68 Camaro.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 10:38:14 PM
Are we soon done with the mine is bigger then yours BS?

No, it's     BB    and    SB . . .   NOT BS...   ;) ;)
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: bcmiller on February 22, 2024, 11:10:21 PM
So what is your point? 

Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 22, 2024, 11:41:05 PM
So what is your point?

I think the question is "What is your point?"

Since you are posting here you must have some reason for posting?

  As in something worth contributing to the conversation?

IF you don't, then don't post on my Thread.  Thanks!   :P :P
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: boomer632 on February 23, 2024, 12:27:10 AM
Oh boy..
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: rocco376 on February 23, 2024, 12:50:09 AM
Wow
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: David K on February 23, 2024, 01:22:16 AM
🍿
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: 169INDY on February 23, 2024, 05:45:57 AM
raTcheTmasTerman
Newbie

Are you Shopping for a Small block or Big block 1968 or maybe own one already, the production numbers and surviving cars sure account to rarity (availability) and market value (costs)

tell us more about it in "OUR" thread, as  a community we add contributions additive and cumulatively to the conversations,,,,,,,,
There is a lot of good knowledge and great journeyman members whom contribute to ALL threads & to this site content..............

Jim
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: bcmiller on February 23, 2024, 08:01:31 PM
So what is your point?

I think the question is "What is your point?"

Since you are posting here you must have some reason for posting?

  As in something worth contributing to the conversation?

IF you don't, then don't post on my Thread.  Thanks!   :P :P


You are going to get one notice, and this is it.

Act like you want to be here, or you won't be.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: CantRepeat on February 23, 2024, 08:08:56 PM
So what is your point?

I think the question is "What is your point?"

Since you are posting here you must have some reason for posting?

  As in something worth contributing to the conversation?

IF you don't, then don't post on my Thread.  Thanks!   :P :P


You are going to get one notice, and this is it.

Act like you want to be here, or you won't be.

Heed this warning.
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: raTcheTmasTerman on February 24, 2024, 01:01:57 AM
raTcheTmasTerman
Newbie

Are you Shopping for a Small block or Big block 1968 or maybe own one already, the production numbers and surviving cars sure account to rarity (availability) and market value (costs)

tell us more about it in "OUR" thread, as  a community we add contributions additive and cumulatively to the conversations,,,,,,,,
There is a lot of good knowledge and great journeyman members whom contribute to ALL threads & to this site content..............

Jim

Hey Jim.
I have read many of your posts.  You are very helpful to many members seeking help and info.

No I wasn't considering values or which is better... It was a simple observation from the CRG data that I had never noticed before.  I would have thought that there would have been more small block SS cars since I figured that the factory would probably have produced more 350 cars than 396s.  I love big blocks.  And I love ALL 1st gen camaros.  :D 

 I have been using CRG since around 1999.  I have been a member of Camaros.net since 2001.

I have a 68 RS SS 350 that I bought in 1983.  My first Camaro was in 1978.  It was a 67 big block 396 4 speed car.  It had been turned into a Bracket car.  I built the car myself when I was 16.
And yes, I was the creator of the thread on this forum.  And we are all contributors with our posts to the thread.
So it's not mine, but I started it.  :D
Thanks for contributing the ways these cars can be valued differently based on many factors, some of which you pointed out for us. 
 8)  <thumbsup>
Title: Re: 1968 Big block VS small block SS cars
Post by: KurtS on February 25, 2024, 01:59:28 AM
Nope. You have to add the 272 L89 engines and the 4575 L78 together. It also has it's own engine suffix code, MT vs MQ.
Show me a 1968 WS that has both L78 and L89 options on it and I will change my mind.
L78 and L89 were separate options on the window sticker.