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General Discussion / Re: Wrong body tag?

« on: April 28, 2024, 11:14:11 PM »

That is not at all out of the norm for body numbers. Had nothing to do with production scheduling.

The first ZL-1 Camaro built December 30, 1968 is N569358/NOR222002. #14 is N609238/N222001 built March 5, 1969.

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General Discussion / Re: Wrong body tag?

« on: April 28, 2024, 09:55:03 PM »

Nothing wrong with the tag. N690327 was final assembled on or about September 25, 1969.

Body number sequencing was reset to 100001 when the extended MY production run began August 1969.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...tag swap?

« on: April 26, 2024, 06:52:46 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156181133429

124379N608881

Reported VIN is for a Camaro built at the Norwood, OH plant on or about March 5, 1969

Car has an 04L body tag from a car built April 30 or May 1, 1969.

One or both tags may not be original to the car; hidden VINs may not match.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options

« on: April 23, 2024, 06:34:13 PM »

Probably a flip. Has a shopping list of issues.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options

« on: April 23, 2024, 05:28:05 PM »

Consigned to Mecum Indy.

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Camaro front spoiler support rods

« on: April 20, 2024, 01:45:15 PM »

The first Z/28s w/included D80 were final-assembled April 1st. No D80 on the tag until late May.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options

« on: April 20, 2024, 01:24:08 PM »

The chrome knob just needs to be snugged up via strap wrench.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options

« on: April 19, 2024, 06:04:58 PM »

Exactly, there was no need for it.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options

« on: April 19, 2024, 01:36:44 PM »

This seems like a good opportunity to clarify something.

The chrome knob did not use the lock nut as used on the Hurst T-handle. I regularly see a lock nut under the knob, even on cars going through judging.

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General Discussion / Re: Current market price of an original 1969 Z28

« on: April 18, 2024, 10:57:33 PM »

Unrestored, original cars usually don’t need to be auctioned. Auction cars are virtually always restored. However, there will be three excellent original examples at Mecum Indy.

Does not include cross-ram or JL-8 cars.

Using 2022-2024 auction data from Barrett-Jackson, Mecum and GAA here’s the results:

Z/28   50 examples average sale w/fee    $110,721
24 sales were over six figures including $275k and $220k. The $295k Powder Blue Z/28 at B-J Scottsdale 2022 was not included

Z/28-RS   27 examples average sale w/fee $105,926
15 sales were over six figures

I don’t go into a lot of detail but note obvious flaws. These are comments seen for cars under six figures.

-nom
-black grille
-houndstooth seats/standard interior
-headers
-X33 trim added to X77 car
-T-10 trans
-obvious amateur restoration

Not much variance between the years.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ BLOCK INFO

« on: April 14, 2024, 07:29:01 PM »

Yes it did.

Full VIN 124379N558777. No hits on that VIN.

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General Discussion / Re: TT for sale FB Illinois

« on: April 13, 2024, 03:53:46 PM »

Belongs on 123679N514693.

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Originality / Re: Breather elbow hose

« on: April 12, 2024, 03:19:43 PM »

Here's a couple of original photos.

The first shows it can't be installed with the connector pointing left.

A couple of observations. The hose has to be positioned much farther down the connector than it is. I suspect your air cleaner base may not be correct, or the tube is loose. The original pics seem to show the tube in a slightly different location or clocked differently. There were several different open element air cleaner bases.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...scam?

« on: April 12, 2024, 01:56:48 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116142229155

Photos show VIN and body tags, and a re-stamped block.

124679N605811

Photos of the warranty folder show a different car, 124379N602589. Also appears to be the car pictured in the ad.

124379N602589 is a 72 E 713 SS-RS coupe, was on ebay June 2019.

124679N605811 is a 72 B 712 SS convert sold Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2008.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Need Help Identifying 69 Rally Wheel

« on: April 08, 2024, 05:54:04 PM »

Could be an FW code wheel dated December 21 for the 1976 model year.

Physically the same as a YH.