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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: rocco376 on May 19, 2021, 12:16:59 AM
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Apparently this car=
https://www.proxibid.com/Collector-Cars/Classic-Vintage-Cars/1969-Chevrolet-Z28-Camaro-For-Restore/lotInformation/42532990
Is now this car?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265163993805?hash=item3dbd0172cd%3Ag%3ALQsAAOSwadJgotA0&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C1000%7C2500
$175.000??
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Amazing, found the original engine.
Has a 'regenerated' window sticker aka 'fake'.
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124379N635999
The engine is BY GREGG LONG OF THE GM PARTS IN ANGOLA, INDIANA (of restamp fame)
>REGENERATED MONRONEY LABEL AND OPTION CODES FROM NATIONAL CAMARO HISTORIC ARCHIVES
Hmm, what archives are those??
And it has another worthless certificate. I wish the inspectors in the hobby would stop printing those. What matters is the inspection report.
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124379N635999
The engine is BY GREGG LONG OF THE GM PARTS IN ANGOLA, INDIANA (of restamp fame)
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Indeed a questionable character: https://law.justia.com/cases/indiana/court-of-appeals/2007/76a05-0607-cr-387-1.html
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Small thing but that California black plate lettering would date the plates to the mid-1960s. ‘69 plates were reaching the end of the alphabet (something like U-Z). Pretty car.
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I checked the CA DMV website and the license hasn't paid any registration fees for 2019, 2020, and 2021.
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For your viewing pleasure!
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Nice $75,000 car......the extra $100,000 is for Gregg Long (just think of all the time he spent “tracking down” the original engine)?
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I guess they stamp more than just license plates in prison these days!
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With the questionable stamps, history, and more, why would Larry Christensen certify this car? With that, I'm not sure what he actually certifies when he issues the certification document.
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I personally love the aluminum paint all over the transmission... that's exactly how they were done... everyone /sarc ::)
I believe the actual certification sheet should refer to additional pages with any discrepancies with the car.
perhaps a note that there are a few or numerous or a plethora of issues - maybe the certification should state "this certification relates to the Trim TAG and the vehicle to which it is attached."
The TT has not been off the car --- is about the best thing I can say about it.
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With the questionable stamps, history, and more, why would Larry Christensen certify this car? With that, I'm not sure what he actually certifies when he issues the certification document.
Perhaps he's certifying that the owner had a camaro, and that he had their payment for his letter?
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124379N635999
The engine is BY GREGG LONG OF THE GM PARTS IN ANGOLA, INDIANA (of restamp fame)
WOW!
Given the details of this man's trial I fail to see why anyone would list him in any add dealing with the sail of a car. He's 100% a fraud and anything he touches is subject to scrutiny. With some other sort of evidence stating otherwise his work is all lies.
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The stamp looks close to being to high for the gang holder to fit with the head on ? I just got one of my cars inspected by JM a few weeks ago. There was some cars there with issues that the owners had no idea they even existed. I have seen more than one '69 Z/28 with the wrong engine/trans/rear. But like I have heard Jerry say, at least it's still a real Z/28. Maybe Larry was just confirming THAT?.. Danny
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Scary. More 69 Z/28 cars being made everyday. Some made to be numbers matching.
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Interesting that 124379N635999 originally sold as a ROUGH ROLLING SHELL (https://www.proxibid.com/Collector-Cars/Classic-Vintage-Cars/1969-Chevrolet-Z28-Camaro-For-Restore/lotInformation/42532990) (without the original engine or transmission) back in 2018 for $5750.00, but somehow grew what appears to be the original engine and transmission in the new CRAIGSLIST AD (https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/santa-clarita-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28/7340986118.html)!
Description in 2018:
You are bidding on a 1969 Chevrolet Z28 Camaro Coupe for restore. Body Only. No dash or interior. 124379N635999. TITLE. This is a real Z28 Body X33. Bought from original owner who parted it out. Still has the 12 bolt POSI. NO motor or transmission.
Description from the new Craigslist ad:
V0403DZ 9N635999
COMPLETELY REBUILT AND RECONDITIONED WITH ALL OF THE CORRECT INTERNAL PARTS
THIS VEHICLE WAS BUILT AND INTENDED FOR A PRIVATE, DISCERNING COLLECTOR THAT WANTED A RARE, TRUE, REAL DEAL Z28 WITH MATCHING ENGINE, TRANSMISSION AND DIFFERENTIAL
Before and after pictures below
Ed
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Hmmmmmm…..
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Note that the ad also mentions Greg Long, Angola, Indiana.
Nuff said!
Ed
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Like, hmmmm.... if your going to do something like that you better be smart about and make sure there are no loose ends. Ed, your eagle eyes are appreciated.
Joe
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Camaro is still not registered to drive in California:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=19291.msg175031#msg175031
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Didn't notice it had already been discussed. I'll merge the two threads.
Ed
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The stamp looks close to being to high for the gang holder to fit with the head on ? I just got one of my cars inspected by JM a few weeks ago. There was some cars there with issues that the owners had no idea they even existed. I have seen more than one '69 Z/28 with the wrong engine/trans/rear. But like I have heard Jerry say, at least it's still a real Z/28. Maybe Larry was just confirming THAT?.. Danny
More accurately stated... "It was at one time a real Z28..." which means what in terms of value? many burned down houses USED to be very nice homes....
ie. Z28 emblems on a Camaro does NOT mean it's a Z28... by the same token, a X77 or X33 on the body plate doesn't mean that it's 'still' a Z28 either. A Z28 carried many special parts and required special options before it was completed in the factory... NOT just emblems or a body plate!
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Btw, that car was at the Tom Brown auction back in 2018.