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Originality / 1969 Camaro with 3-Speed Manual Trans and Console?
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:21:18 PM »
Hey, everyone, my first time on the forum. Hope you can help me.
I want to add a console (and do it correctly) to a 69 Camaro with a 307 and a three-speed manual transmission and factory floor shifter (RPO M11). The car has the original Saginaw transmission and shifter. My confusion comes from reading the assembly manual which says that the rubber boot used on the console equipped vehicles was the same for both three and four speed transmissions (part # 9795407). However, the factory four-speed had a round, Hurst shifter lever, while the Saginaw shifter lever for the three-speed is rectangular. The only boot I can find anywhere for the console application has a round hole for the four-speed lever. In addition, the console shift tunnels for three and four speeds were different and had different part numbers.
My question is, if the seal is the same, then did console equipped vehicles come with a different shifter than the standard floor shift (without console)? If that’s the case, how did it mount, onto the transmission, or onto the crossmember? Was it a Hurst shifter, or some other type?
A different transmission or shifter is not shown anywhere in the assembly manual, nor have I ever read anything regarding this situation.
I know there was an offering of a heavy duty three speed transmission (RPO MC1). Was this transmission somehow required when a console was selected (I doubt it)??
Thanks for any info on this. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a three speed with a console at any car shows I’ve attended over the years. Most people probably swapped in the four-speed.
Tim
I want to add a console (and do it correctly) to a 69 Camaro with a 307 and a three-speed manual transmission and factory floor shifter (RPO M11). The car has the original Saginaw transmission and shifter. My confusion comes from reading the assembly manual which says that the rubber boot used on the console equipped vehicles was the same for both three and four speed transmissions (part # 9795407). However, the factory four-speed had a round, Hurst shifter lever, while the Saginaw shifter lever for the three-speed is rectangular. The only boot I can find anywhere for the console application has a round hole for the four-speed lever. In addition, the console shift tunnels for three and four speeds were different and had different part numbers.
My question is, if the seal is the same, then did console equipped vehicles come with a different shifter than the standard floor shift (without console)? If that’s the case, how did it mount, onto the transmission, or onto the crossmember? Was it a Hurst shifter, or some other type?
A different transmission or shifter is not shown anywhere in the assembly manual, nor have I ever read anything regarding this situation.
I know there was an offering of a heavy duty three speed transmission (RPO MC1). Was this transmission somehow required when a console was selected (I doubt it)??
Thanks for any info on this. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a three speed with a console at any car shows I’ve attended over the years. Most people probably swapped in the four-speed.
Tim