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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 02:31:39 PM

Title: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 02:31:39 PM: Hi

Is there an easy way to determine if the interior on my ‘69 is original?

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: cook_dw on December 09, 2021, 02:50:46 PM: post some photos
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 03:11:54 PM: (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GtZP95BO2zohWjYBLbeq9gIQk99DoOw-OeMSv9qim1rTlGonvQDuBb517oICpf_RACtWJL1tYnJDUU0GLNH74UwUS5jAPoTYPT9EbOEvVJKMRNEgk9F0OmROs9KEsEA3MWyIUdW0ew=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GtZP95BO2zohWjYBLbeq9gIQk99DoOw-OeMSv9qim1rTlGonvQDuBb517oICpf_RACtWJL1tYnJDUU0GLNH74UwUS5jAPoTYPT9EbOEvVJKMRNEgk9F0OmROs9KEsEA3MWyIUdW0ew=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

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Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: Jonesy on December 09, 2021, 03:24:00 PM: Take a picture of the whole door panel.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 03:32:57 PM: (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pF-tBEKc4G4Ea3GAx4cC9ebWh5-FG1HUKIUP6YiOU-s_kRI6HP__g6al6h1aRXcwvRnObumr7UQwwb3pxrK6qpr8vCnYfHoocVyEu-uQZjVx_aLNFndR3Sld9hs3J68IvYknspnM4w=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pF-tBEKc4G4Ea3GAx4cC9ebWh5-FG1HUKIUP6YiOU-s_kRI6HP__g6al6h1aRXcwvRnObumr7UQwwb3pxrK6qpr8vCnYfHoocVyEu-uQZjVx_aLNFndR3Sld9hs3J68IvYknspnM4w=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

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Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 03:42:03 PM: I had a very small rip on the seat seam and took it to an upholstery shop. The guy said, “do you realize these are the original seat covers”? Hence my question.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: 69Z28-RS on December 09, 2021, 04:24:36 PM: On the backside of original seat covers is an ink stamped mfg and date...
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 06:07:44 PM: That must be what they saw when they fixed it. Car was purchased from original owner so I’m guessing the seats and door panels might be original. Hard to a believe a white 53 year old interior is original.

I was hoping someone could tell by looking at the pictures.

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: firstgenaddict on December 09, 2021, 07:08:20 PM: Standard door panels have vinyl on the top and leatherette paper on the bottoms. There is a break at the trim at the top of the panel.
original raised areas are built up of blocks of cardboard.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 07:26:08 PM: At a recent cars and coffee, someone mentioned that my driver door panel looked original primarily because it had the molding and hole for the remote mirror. He said he wanted to add one when he rebuilt his ‘69 but couldn’t find a repro door panel that had it.

Any truth to that?

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: william on December 09, 2021, 08:59:32 PM: A remote mirror is a fairly rare option [7,771] so no surprise they didn't want to tool up for it.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: 69Z28-RS on December 09, 2021, 09:48:35 PM: Original interiors from the '50's and 60's generally ONLY lasted if the cars were built with all tinted glass or were garaged, or both...
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 09, 2021, 10:03:07 PM: Sure makes sense. This car has factory tinted glass (A0) and was certainly garaged.

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: camaronut on December 09, 2021, 11:19:42 PM: I don't think the door panels are original. Look like PUI gold version.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: 77thor on December 10, 2021, 12:05:45 AM: Agree. I think those panels are "too white" to be original.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 10, 2021, 04:12:12 AM: Thanks everyone for your input. Sincerely appreciate it!

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: Gars68Tux on December 10, 2021, 08:50:54 AM: The seats are fairly easy (obvious). Just turn them upside down or remove the rear cover on the buckets.

I'm trying to post a photo but not sure it's gonna work...
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: firstgenaddict on December 10, 2021, 07:23:07 PM: The door panels do not have the 2 piece construction with vinyl on the top... on original std door panels there is an open seam which goes through the center of the trim where the remote mirror control is located

Original white pass door panel in photo -
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 10, 2021, 09:10:45 PM: Thank you so much. That’s exactly what I was looking for. My ‘68 looks like that!!

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 10, 2021, 09:13:25 PM: Quote from: Gars68Tux on December 10, 2021, 08:50:54 AM
The seats are fairly easy (obvious). Just turn them upside down or remove the rear cover on the buckets.

I'm trying to post a photo but not sure it's gonna work...

That’s how my seats look. Thank you.

Ed
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 10, 2021, 09:46:56 PM: Quote from: firstgenaddict on December 10, 2021, 07:23:07 PM
The door panels do not have the 2 piece construction with vinyl on the top... on original std door panels there is an open seam which goes through the center of the trim where the remote mirror control is located

Original white pass door panel in photo -

Thanks again! I now know how to tell the difference! I knew my 68 panels were original. Here’s ash gold.

Ed.

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Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: firstgenaddict on December 11, 2021, 01:53:47 AM: Is your car butternut yellow?
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 11, 2021, 03:36:07 AM: Yes it is.

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Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: firstgenaddict on December 11, 2021, 06:24:58 AM: Thats a great combo - white top and int is subtle with the bnut yellow.
I found a 26k mile white on white RS SS conv a few years ago, I like the butternut white combo better.
Title: Re: How to tell if interior is original ‘69
Post by: emdoller on December 11, 2021, 02:03:25 PM: Quote from: firstgenaddict on December 11, 2021, 06:24:58 AM
Thats a great combo - white top and int is subtle with the bnut yellow.
I found a 26k mile white on white RS SS conv a few years ago, I like the butternut white combo better.

Thanks. It’s the reason I bought the car. It’s probably one of the “prettiest” Camaro’s I’ve ever seen. What’s funny is, when I take it to cars and coffee, there’s more women that comment on it then men. It was originally purchased by a women and I was lucky enough to purchase it. Here’s the window sticker.

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