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General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 25, 2014, 02:07:42 PM »

Jimmy, Thank you for the contribution, and please I mean no disrespect, but your emblem has been off the car.  And you say "how can you tell mister smarty pants".  Well if you feel behind the Z there are guides that place the emblem on the vertical and horizontal location and behind the numbers there is a guide for placing on the horizontal location.  So the horizontal should split the emblem in half you'll see what I mean once you feel behind it.  I would even say, that in the link I posted the location of where the emblem on the Yellow car is now after restoration might be a click off, I don't think he has the vertical between the two guide marks on the "Z", but that is just from eyeballing it.

Regards,
Jerry K.

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General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 25, 2014, 01:25:49 PM »

So then I would submit that the Muscle Car Review cover car could be discounted as a good source regardless of where the emblem was located.  The barn find car has possibilities but I would rely more on pictures closer to the date of sale like the one in the link, that picture was taken very early in the cars life.  I would also like to caveat the purpose of this dialogue is not to tick anyone off, totally not the intention here, just would like to get this important fact correct because the Legend cars are what become the template for others to base their restorations.

Jerry K.

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General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 25, 2014, 11:20:34 AM »

Saw the Muscle Car Review cover online, does it look like it has a black bumper?  And are the headlight doors black and not painted as they should be? 

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General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 25, 2014, 01:06:07 AM »

Hi Fred,  No problem asking the question.  That is what this forum is for.  I don't want to make a federal case about it but we can go on and on about the finish of a bolt that most people will never see, but getting one of the most important elements of an ICONIC American automobile correct should be essential.  Again if there is NO documentation then why the point reduction.  So then it comes down to the picture in Jerry's book vs the picture in the link I put up.  The closer to the selling date the picture the more reliable I would contend, so if there is anyone out there with photos when they brought their 1969 RS Z/28 home for the first time and can post them that would be outstanding and go a long way in helping others.  I agree that most people mess up the standard grill emblem.  It makes all the purist cringe and that should be the way we feel with the RS Z/28 grill, it can't be acceptable to be located in more than one place, there is only one that is correct.  So go ahead Fred and move that emblem back, my money says you had it right all along.

Jerry K.

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General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 23, 2014, 04:42:38 PM »

So if there is no documentation, how can he be docked a point?  And if there is no documentation then it was probably assumed that the default was the standard grill location, and I like to go back to how the placement in the grill relates to the stripe.  I'd love to see some more early, early photos like the article if anyone has any.

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General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 23, 2014, 04:03:38 PM »

Thanks Gary, that is the car.  Again I do not see any reason why the placement would be different RS vs. Standard.  To clarify what I mean by 5 verticles, if you look at the center veritcle and take that as zero like on a number line then go right there are 5 verticles before you get to the head light.  The standard grill placement is on the third veritcle splitting the Z and thus should "in my opinion" do the same on the RS grill and would place it in the same location in relation to the stripe.  It seems obvious to me and looks "right".  The location on Fred's car is on the second verticle and just looks weird.  Fred had it on the third verticle but was told it was "wrong", but not sure on what basis.  Just a pet peave, I guess, of mine, I could be wrong but I would have to have something more concrete.  That is why I referenced the article and a picture that was at the latest taken in 1970.  I have a standard grill car so I don't have a dog in the fight, but if mine was an RS I would put it on the 3rd verticle because it looks "right" :-)

Regards,
Jerry

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General Discussion / Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

« on: June 23, 2014, 01:51:19 PM »

During the Camaro Nationals this year I was talking to Fred from Texas who has a sweet 1969 Z/28 Cortez Silver RS and I asked him why his grill emblem was placed more towards center vs where it would be located on the standard grill.  He indicated that last year he was docked a point because the emblem should be moved to its current location.  I believe he was correct with where he originally had it because in my mind why would they move the emblem more towards center on the RS, there are 5 verticle lines on the standard and the RS grill and it only makes sense that the emblem should remain at the same location regardless of which grill, plus it just doesn't look right being on the more centered location.  Plus I also remembered an article from Muscle Machines about a guy who bought an RS Z/28 new, sold it then got it back years later, but the interesting part about the article is the picture from when he first got the car and it shows that the emblem is in the location of which I believe it should be.  So Fred if you see this post here is a link to the article, I knew I would find it!!  Scrowl through the pictures and let me know what you think.  Food for thought!!  Hope you made it home safe and sound.

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2011/08/01/hmn_feature2.html

Regards,
Jerry K.

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Restoration / Re: Inner heater box color

« on: July 23, 2012, 05:19:02 PM »

Thanks Mac, did you or has anyone else ever replace the foam that is on the main flap and if so what did you use?  Something that could last a long time considering the heat that blows on it.

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Restoration / Re: Inner heater box color

« on: July 17, 2012, 01:50:45 PM »

Thanks for the paint information.  One other quick question....  I took the whole unit apart to restore it and now I'm ready to reassemble, my question is what type of foam to use that acts as a seal, the original foam gets dry rotted and falls apart and is on both sides of the flap, also what is the best adhesive to use, the original looks like black tar :-)

Regards,
Jerry K.

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Restoration / Re: Inner heater box color

« on: July 17, 2012, 02:26:16 AM »

Hans and John - Thank you so much!!!  Would you consider that a Satin finish?

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Restoration / Inner heater box color

« on: July 14, 2012, 09:48:58 PM »

Was wondering what color the inner part of the heater box (under dash) should be, the same as the outer 60-70% gloss?  Or is it glossier? Or does it really matter?

Regards,
Jerry K.

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Originality / Re: 69 Z/28 Emissions Decal - any interest?

« on: July 02, 2012, 11:53:52 AM »

Not sure I'm tracking with which decal is the correct one, is the one that Oaklyss and I show incorrect?  Or are they correct for later production which means there are two versions?  I would love to buy one but if I buy the one that is shown in the first post then technically do I have an incorrect decal for my car?

Jerry K.

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Originality / Re: 69 Z/28 Emissions Decal - any interest?

« on: June 29, 2012, 02:22:03 PM »

I probably should have pointed out this is a Norwood car, and late June based on the VIN.

Jerry K.

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Originality / Re: 69 Z/28 Emissions Decal - any interest?

« on: June 29, 2012, 03:30:25 AM »

I might be a little late to the party here, but for what it is worth I have a picture of my 06A Z/28 sticker and I thought it to be the original and it looks like Oaklyss with the S at the end of line one.  

Jerry K.

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General Discussion / Re: YH rims

« on: February 13, 2012, 02:58:29 AM »

Ye Old Wheel Shop in Elkridge Maryland is said to be one of the best in the country.

Jerry