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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: yenko427firebird on March 08, 2016, 01:09:30 AM
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I have a 67 Camaro from clippinger 0-0 paint , I called bob wingate he told me it was a 427 conversion is there any others out there .
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Just based on the color? Did he have paper to back that up?
Clippinger ordered other special paint cars. And they were not 427 cars.
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he has pics of the cars he sold and he had 4 67 camaros with o-o paint codes he sais they put 3 leaf springs on the rear and 427 badges on front fenders. my car is o5c build rs/ sd
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he has no paper work but he knew my car right ay by the color my car still has the 3 leaf rear sp rings
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he did order the 4 67s himself and he sold the one i have and took pcs of the ones he sold and he remered all the fleet 67 camaros
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Can you post some pictures of your Camaro?
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I will its in trans port should be here in a week or so
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he has no paper work but he knew my car right ay by the color my car still has the 3 leaf rear sp rings
Do you know the color name?
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yes
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So what is the GM color name?
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was british racing green
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was british racing green
I don't think that was a GM color name for 1967. Could it have another name and do you have any of the special paint order paperwork? Or does Bob have any?
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I split this out from the other thread.
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I don't know what they called it back then but that's what it is dark green 785 893 7037 call me ill talk to u about what I know about it
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here is a 67 Camaro shown with Bob Wingate's special order FSO 67 Corvette (1967 pics)
not sure what color it was as the pics are in B&W
http://www.67fso.com/
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HE told me it was kandy apple green the vett
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Looks like plain old Goodwood Green to me.
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that's what he told me
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here is a 67 Camaro shown with Bob Wingate's special order FSO 67 Corvette (1967 pics)
not sure what color it was as the pics are in B&W
http://www.67fso.com/
Hard to tell but it does look like the normal Corvette color - Goodwood Green - to me.
Any idea why the FSO designation? Maybe for the stripe?
Nice 67 Camaro SS 350 in one of the pics. Might be white.
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u know what your prob right when they painted they went with org color but when they gave it to him in 67 it was kandy green
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according to this article, Bob had two different 67 Corvettes
I'm not sure if its all correct but is an interesting story
http://www.superchevy.com/features/vemp-0604-bob-wingate-fso-corvettes/
quote from above article...
"This first "special" car was built around August 1966. It was a '67 coupe with flared wheelwells, candy-apple-green paint, a light-blue Stinger stripe (a favorite styling cue of Wingate's), a tube grille, smoothed-in front turn signals, and a few other special features that weren't on the options list. Later, after the car had been delivered, some GM personnel saw it during a trip to California. One of them suggested it might not be a great idea to have Wingate running around in what was essentially a show car. They decided to build him a replacement that was a little closer to factory specs."
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I think you are right JoeC. I think this is the second car. The first car had smoothed area around front turn signals. This one appears factory and surely looks to be Goodwood Green.
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my trim tag
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pics
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pics
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pic what is this lol
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pic what is this lol
That picture is showing you the partial VIN on the cowl, and the original green color under the red re-paint.
What's the cooler for?
Paul
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I don't know
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Nice 67 Camaro SS 350 in one of the pics. Might be white.
Here it is...
California black license plate number TYK000
(http://www.67fso.com/67badillo.jpg)
Paul
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pic what is this lol
How about a pic of under the hood.
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its not home yet had a guy take a couple pics at the yard.
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em
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I wonder if the Camaro in the B&W photo could be an early 350 to 427 conversion ?
if it has SS 350 on the gas cap would mean an early car?
Yenko Motion Dana Nickey did some early 350 to 427 conversions
some left the 350 emblems on them
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I wonder if the Camaro in the B&W photo could be an early 350 to 427 conversion ?
if it has SS 350 on the gas cap would mean an early car?
Yenko Motion Dana Nickey did some early 350 to 427 conversions
some left the 350 emblems on them
Not sure but I think you are right. Probably an early car.
No way to prove the 427 transplant though without docs.
Do those look like GOODYEAR cheater slicks on the rear of the white car? :)
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Here it is...
California black license plate number TYK000
(http://www.67fso.com/67badillo.jpg)
Paul
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Love that background. Those palms are about a half-mile from my house and I pass by them every day.
c
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I know of two other cars that are L78 cars, built at the same time as your car, and were also dark green. One is a possible dealer modified car.
But your car has a different Special Order (F&SO) number (L229D) than the other two.
As a SS350 car, I would question that your car was dealer converted to a 427 car, especially that late in the year. They would start with a big block, normally an L78 so they could reuse the most components. And have the right engine mounts, heater core, radiator, etc.
Why the L78 cars have a different F&SO than your car is an interesting question - seeing that they are apparently the same color, just different drivetrains.
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all i know is bob has seen the car and he said it was a 427 transplant the
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Really neat car. I like the color. Congratulations on your purchase.
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The white Camaro in the photo with the TYK 000 license has been owned by me since 1970. The car is a true SS 350 Camaro with White Paint code CC. The car was a suspension development car for Guldstrand Egineering that was owned by Gary Wheeler at the time. The car was supposedly one of the first SS 350 sold by Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina. Jon Mello is aware of the car and its history.
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The white Camaro in the photo with the TYK 000 license has been owned by me since 1970. The car is a true SS 350 Camaro with White Paint code CC. The car was a suspension development car for Guldstrand Egineering that was owned by Gary Wheeler at the time. The car was supposedly one of the first SS 350 sold by Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina. Jon Mello is aware of the car and its history.
Wow, your license plate is the closest to my 01C car I've seen yet! Cool
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The white Camaro in the photo with the TYK 000 license has been owned by me since 1970. The car is a true SS 350 Camaro with White Paint code CC. The car was a suspension development car for Guldstrand Egineering that was owned by Gary Wheeler at the time. The car was supposedly one of the first SS 350 sold by Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina. Jon Mello is aware of the car and its history.
Very cool, Bob. I'm glad the car is still around! Did you buy the car from Gary Wheeler?
Paul
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That image hosting service attaches some borderline images as far as being appropriate goes. We have noticed that before. Not sure what the solution is to that. You only notice the extra images when you click on the ones visible in the thread.
Kurt do you have a solution?
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The easy solution is posting via the forum software. Then the pics don't fade away over time.
You have to click on Reply to see the Attachment option - it doesn't show under Quick Reply.
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There is a letter that was written by Bob Wingate that the owner (who has apparently left the forum) has posted publicly. It says car was special paint and was a L78 to 427 conversion.
I question that Bob is referring to this car LOS34507 since this is a small block 4P car and it clearly says the car started as a L78. Every 4P LOS car is a small block. I think it's about one of the special paint L78 cars (both are 4K) that I mentioned previously.
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he had them put a 396 375 hp engine in a 4p car .
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Who is he and who is them?
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Kurt "he" is Bob Wingate....."them" is Chevrolet........
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That's not even a plausible theory. 4P was an internal GM code. No way would a dealer even know about the code to make such a request. A LOS 4P is a small block car, no question.
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If he comes up with *original* dealer docs, then we will know what it was. Til then, it's unsubstantiated. Here's more discussion about the car.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/652920/all/1967-rs-ss-camaro
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Price drop. Now on my local Craigslist (where it came from) for only $125,000.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5562200242.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5562200242.html)
this is one of 5 special order cars from clippinger chevy in Covina California . the color dark green special order by bob wingate the top sales manager of clippinger and a well know performance sales man . it was a special paint 427 conversion from clippinger . and it has docs from the sales man who ordered it and sold . 12 bolt 373 pj code rear 4 speed rs/ss org panels front to back vary rare car only 2 cars have surfaced a 67 z/28 and my green rs/ss out of 5 cars
Rear end is dated 2 months before the car. Way early for such a common ratio. Combined with the newer 5 leaf springs, there is a good chance it's not original.
(http://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_3F1xVqPSfMq_600x450.jpg)
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all i know is bob has seen the car and he said it was a 427 transplant the
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lol Bentley
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I would like to see a better pic of the axle stamp.
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I would like to see a better pic of the axle stamp.
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Best I can do. What do you think?
(http://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_3F1xVqPSfMq_1200x900.jpg)
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I would like to see a better pic of the axle stamp.
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Best I can do. What do you think?
I think the axle stamp is fine, and I think the date is fine for that car. There are others with similar spreads.
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Car could have been an SS350 special ordered with a 3.73 axle.
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all i know is bob has seen the car and he said it was a 427 transplant the
Couldnt have said it better myself..
I would like to see a better pic of the axle stamp.
P J 0 3 2 0
Best I can do. What do you think?
I think the axle stamp is fine, and I think the date is fine for that car. There are others with similar spreads.
So you have others in the database that the stamp is that far over towards the drum?