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General Discussion / Re: Crossram, was there ever a single carb adapter plate?

« on: March 28, 2023, 10:27:46 PM »

In the April 1972 issue of Car Craft, there was an interesting article about Smokey Yunick developing a single carburetor cross-ram intake manifold for use in the 1970 Trans Am series:

https://www.camaros.net/threads/smokey-ram-info-needed.487591/

Mark,
Smokey fixed all of the issues with the Cross-Rams internals to make it work better. Smaller plenum, shorter runners. Also, racers did more modifications (as seen in the article) to achieve even more. I believe IF Chevrolet continued with the factory involvement in Trans-Am racing for 1970, they would have used Smokey's design Cross-Ram. As noted in the article, GM did attach a part number to it. However, it was a little too late by then. The show was over.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram, was there ever a single carb adapter plate?

« on: March 24, 2023, 04:28:47 PM »

Guys,
A slight bit off topic, and I'm sure this has been discussed a million times. Here goes: DID the Winters Cross-Rams come in the trunk when it was a special ordered car? OR was the Cross-Ram an over the counter sale only? Trying to settle a bet. Thanks for the help...

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram, was there ever a single carb adapter plate?

« on: March 23, 2023, 08:21:10 PM »

I believe for 1970, Chevy pulled the plug so to speak for the Trans-Am teams. Penske switched to AMC, and Chevy had no factory (?) sponsored teams. Why spend money on a 'new' single 4V top plate for the Cross-Ram intakes. Independent racers most likely referred back to a legal dual plane single 4V intake. Please chime in to correct me if I'm wrong.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram, was there ever a single carb adapter plate?

« on: March 15, 2023, 04:05:15 PM »

would an Offenhauser #5901 single quad top fit and work on a Winters Cross Ram base

You could just fabricate your own alum top. Very simple to do. OR, you can have a machine shop make one up for you. That said, it might be easier and cheaper to purchase an aftermarket single 4V version like an Offy, or Smokey Ram intake instead.

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Smokey Yunick

« on: March 14, 2023, 04:18:26 PM »

I can only imagine what the owner of that Wendover small town garage was thinking having Smokey arrive with his cars! Amazing pictures, and thanks for posting.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram, was there ever a single carb adapter plate?

« on: March 14, 2023, 04:13:29 PM »

There was no single-carb adapter. The purpose of the cross-ram was to increase [1,200 cfm] fuel-flow over the production 780 cfm carb. There is no reason to believe Chevrolet Engineering even considered it; the SB hemi-head was a clear failure but is listed in the SCCA/FIA homologation documents. A single-carb adapter is not.

That is correct. For 1970, a single 4V carb was 'required' for SCCA Trans Am racing. So, as I believe Chevrolet went back to a single four intake. I'm sure Jon (and others) will chime in to educate us what exact intake was used for 1970. As a side note, the Brand X models had the options of either a 4V, or an 8V tops for competition use.

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Garage Talk / Re: The worse 69 Camaro accident I have ever seen...

« on: March 08, 2023, 04:48:32 PM »

Back in the 1980s in LA, I witnessed an accident at the street races. One of the cars involved was a nice '69 SS Camaro racing I believe a Mopar. Anyways, they went through a 4 way stop and the Camaro clipped a mini-truck during a left turn, and kept going. The guy in the mini truck was ok, however banged up. His truck was totaled. Never heard or seen the guy in the Camaro again.

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Garage Talk / Re: The worse 69 Camaro accident I have ever seen...

« on: March 08, 2023, 12:55:56 AM »

I believe that's the worst accident I have ever seen in a photograph. Btw, are we sure its a real Z/28? Reason I ask, it appears to have an automatic transmission. OR, am I missing something?

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Garage Talk / Re: Reproduction CA Vintage Registration Tags

« on: February 20, 2023, 06:00:48 PM »

There are vendors on eBay who sell reproduction CA Registration tags:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143958477899?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=143958477899&targetid=1263104805766&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9031024&poi=&campaignid=14859008593&mkgroupid=130497710760&rlsatarget=pla-1263104805766&abcId=9300678&merchantid=6296724

Mark,
Kinda neat. Great for any vintage car and plate. A friend has his originals on his '69 GT-500 and '64 Fuelie 'Vette. That said, I don't beleive they are legal for a current registration. Great for shows at least...

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General Discussion / Claims to be an old 1968 race car?

« on: February 17, 2023, 07:56:44 PM »

Saw this on Craigslist....the guy claims it's an old fiberglass body race car. What do you guys think?

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/new-river-1968-chevy-camaro/7589757485.html

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram air Filters air flows

« on: January 19, 2023, 06:01:18 PM »

I believe the 'Cobra' oval air cleaners are the same. That said, it should be readily available.

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General Discussion / Re: Old Mustang guy looking at a 69 Z28, Help please

« on: January 06, 2023, 08:24:24 PM »

I am looking at a 69 Z28 (confirmed by the cowl tag) It is originally a grabber orange.

Ford speak for Hugger Orange.

Welcome to the site! It looks promising. Good luck if you decide to purchase it. Everyone here would like to hear more about it and your progress.

Oops! .... I warned you

Welcome to the site. You are in good hands from the members. Btw, a bit of a 'correction' on the Grabber Orange/Hugger Orange comparison: Grabber Orange is not the right comparison to Hugger Orange. In Ford speak it would be Calypso Coral. Grabber Orange is closer to school bus yellow.

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Z/28 at Kar-Kraft

« on: January 03, 2023, 04:20:57 PM »

1968 Trans-Am race results:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Trans-American_Championship

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Z/28 at Kar-Kraft

« on: January 02, 2023, 06:26:03 PM »

Would love to see the 'test' results from both cars.

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General Discussion / Re: 1004 Hp 2023 COPO Camaro

« on: December 22, 2022, 04:10:20 PM »

Neat, yes. It is, however Camaro's swan song. Go out with a bang.

Not so sure about that. It sounds like there will be another iteration coming. Besides, what else would Chevrolet have for NASCAR? I don't think for one second that they would walk away from that series.

GM has said no more Camaro after 2024. Challenger is out also. There are no plans for any platform development after that. No rear drive cars...except Trucks, and Corvette as I understand it. NASCRAP has been losing fans for years. Its "Car of Tomorrow" failure has shown that. Now, its more like a video game series of racing. The stands are empty. There is no more 'Win on Sunday, sell on Monday".